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  • Is there anything i can give my horse to take the edge off him

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    04-21-2012, 02:45 AM
Green Broke
Uniformed people like to throw that "natural" thing out there. Well it is "Natural" yeh well hemlock is natural, arsenic is natural. Pretty much everything is natural, What else is there super natural ? Guess anything other than voodoo is natural. Id just ignore em or tell them to mind there own business.
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    04-21-2012, 03:07 AM
I agree with you that's it's your horse, your rules.

But purely for devil's advocate purposes I'll throw this in - we have taken horses away from their natural environment, we fence them in and control their diet. Inadvertently we are altering their diet from what they would choose for themselves, and we have taken away their option to 'self-medicate'. The example given above of supplementing a diet with magnesium is a good one; if horses could freely roam and graze they would find the correct balance of minerals themselves.

So possibly, hypothetically, your horses diet is different from what he would choose himself. Possibly, hypothetically, you are inadvertently feeding him the equivalent of chicken nuggets, fries and chocolate crispies, thus making it hard for him to calm and concentrate. If that were the case, it would be appropriate to supplement his diet with the natural minerals or vitamins that he wants to help his brain function.

I though have absolutely no knowledge of your horses diet, lifestyle or behaviour and so I stick with my initial statement that other people have no place in deciding what you feed him.
    04-21-2012, 06:01 AM
Haha I used a calming paste once and then tried a natural calmer another time and they both made the horse worse. He got super stressed getting on the float so we just tried to take that edge off for him and it diiiiiid noooooot work.

Stand for something, fall for nothing. Good on you.
    04-21-2012, 06:20 AM
Green Broke
Suppliments and drugs are NOT the same.

Now had they been advising you to actualy use a drug I would agree with you and I have done exactly the same for my pony when I was advised to put him on anti psycotic drugs.

My pony is however on a calming suppliment perminantly. This is because I live in a highly agricultural area, the fertilisers and heavy use of the land strips nutriants and vitamins out of the soil and conciquently the grass.
My boy is on a calming suppliment to up his levels of magnesium, L- Tryptophan and b vitamins

Magnesium is essential to a mentaly well balanced horse and helps releave anxiety and stress.

L- Tryptophan is anouther vitamin where when a horse is short of it they will become anxious, tense, nervous and unable to concentrate

B vitamins also used to treat anxiety and inhumans have been used to cure insomnia.

I have had my hay and soil tested and Reeco's blood tested and he need these vitamins.
He has been like a different horse since putting him on his suppliment, he has gone from a bolting nervous wreck to a very sweet pony who loves cuddles and is working very happily!

So take a step back and ask yourself are they actualy asking you to drug your horse or just to give him the vitamins and minerals he needs to function at his best.

Take you for example, without vitamin C your immune system will suffer enormously, so if you have a lack of vitamin C normaly you would either eat more foods with Vit C in it or take a vit C suppliment. Horses do not have this control over thier diet, in the wild they would but we pen them in to small paddocks and artificialy influence what is in the soil therefore as a responsible owner you need to adjust the horses diet to compensate.
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    04-21-2012, 08:35 AM
The things they try to make me give him are like calm and cool, so basically the one time use paste... not a supplement. Oh and he's a gelding, not a mare... and thank you all for agreeing with me!! Sometimes even my best freind whose horse in in the pasture with legacy tells me this and I wish I could just tell all of them to be quiet because its not their horse! But its not the kind of people I can just yell at because theyre like the barn owners sister who waters the horses every day and my riding instructer and basically anybody else who thinks they can boss me around :(
    04-21-2012, 08:57 AM
I think your original post was clear and well articulated, and I'm a big supporter of your horse = your decision.

However, I'm curious as to why your barn mates are pressing the issue so much. What is your horse's behavior like at shows? Is it really a matter of winning more ribbons, or does your horse get so worked up at shows that he's a danger or a distraction to the other competitors?
    04-21-2012, 08:58 AM
Green Broke
My lad is a gelding as well, nervousness is not just in mares.

I personaly will happily give my lad a tube of oxyshot if I think it will halp him have an enjoyable experiance. I'd far rather give it to him and then him have a nice experiance as then he will be happier in similar situations. If he gets stressed and nervy then when we are in a similar situation all he will remember is the stress and nerves and it becomes a vicious circle.

I do NOT advocate giving anything like ACP (aka ACE) to a horse but things like oxyshot are different to them, they do not work in the same way or do the same thing to the horse

It would be worth you reading more about them so you understand them better
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    04-21-2012, 09:05 AM
At shows, he just gets really hyper and doesnt listen the best, he will make really wide turns and doesnt like to slow down, but I would rather teach him to focus than drug him up to where he isnt himself
    04-21-2012, 09:14 AM
I don't consider Calm And Cool a drug. In my opinion I see nothing wrong with knocking the edge off a horses nervous behavior. Alot of mares including my old mare are on Mare Magic in my barn, it just takes the edge off. Mare Magic can also be used on geldings too. We had her on Queitex for a bit or would give her a tube of paste sometimes, she worked herself up quit a bit at shows. She would sweat like crazy and just could not stand still. She didn't perform any different on or off it, she was just better to deal with and she wasn't working herself up on nervous. She did grow out of that behavior as she got older. In the end its your horse your rules.
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    04-21-2012, 09:20 AM
Green Broke
Thing is that suppliments like oxyshot do not drug them up, they just take the very edge off them and allow them to concentrate on you. It will not zone them out or change your horse except to take the edge off your horses nerves.

I do think however that you probably have more of a schooling issue. How much do you work him in a group? Is it the group situation that is getting to him?
Is it possible for you to attend clinics or something where you can get your horse out in a group in a far more controlled environment and then with the aid of an instructor school him hard during the group session?

My lad when first introducing him to a group I started by riding him in one end of the school whilst anouther horse was being ridden at the other end (we do however have a 40m by 60m school). Then gradualy introducing more horses and closer to him. He is a sweet heart in company although can get tense when something gets too close to his back end.

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