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        07-07-2010, 07:44 AM
      #11
    Yearling
    BuckOff- I think that is a great ride in the video you posted. You are leaning forward and giving your horse his face and not bouncing all over.
         
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        07-07-2010, 07:04 PM
      #12
    Yearling
    Haha I'd like to see some of these barrel racers ride Cowboy in a pattern.. It would not end well - because you don't whip Cowboy, and you don't kick Cowboy because he will buck. All ya gotta do is kiss and lean up a little.

    I think a lot of riders might get a bit caught up in the adrenaline to and just crank everything onto their horse.
         
        07-07-2010, 09:38 PM
      #13
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by BuckOff41570    
    You also have to understand that styles differ from rider to rider and horse to horse. My OTT horse you have to sit down more in between barrels than my other horse. If you don't, he'll throw it up a few too many gears and wont carry enough collection going into the barrels. You have to keep him balanced and driving up into the barrel, but can't jockey him up into the pocket.

    My other horse, who's just started on barrels, is an easier style... more or less kick and go. Just sit down in the turns. Either way, it's not my style to get up over a horse. I like to feel like my butt is in the saddle and driving my horse up to where I need him. So that when things happen, like in this run... I'm still centered and riding. (Slipped on the first barrel on his front end, tripped at the second barrel)

    YouTube - Casual Legacy 6-27-2010
    I BOW TO YOUR VIDEO! YOU ARE MY HERO!

    Absolutely beautiful run, and a perfect example of using your rommel or reins as a little encouragement while leaving the rest of your body quiet to let your horse do his job - he KNOWS where the gate is, bringing air time into the picture is only creating wind resistance! I love your beautiful deep seat in the turns, and how quiet and floating and yet not SLAMMING you are between barrels.

    Fantastic vid, I will add it to my list of "Barrel Racin - DOIN' IT RIGHT" vids.

    EDIT - Also wanted to add how much I LOVE your hands - you give him a balance and a contact through the turn, a quick half-halt of sorts to balance him out of a turn and remind him, and then GIVE HIM HIS **** HEAD TO RUN. I cannot STAND watching people try this murdered version of neck reining where they pull so hard, they're actually putting pressure on the opposite side and sending 30 mixed signals - neck reining doesn't involve pulling BACK people! Or when they're so inept, they get left behind off a barrel and end up hauling back on their poor horses face for balance and kicking at the same time!
         
        07-08-2010, 06:03 AM
      #14
    Weanling
    Thank you! My hands were actually a hare rougher than I'd like to be with him. I think it was because the ground was slicker than normal and he was balancing into the bridle more. This was from his first show...

    Aside from the obvious rider error at the second barrel, he went through a little smoother. Granted for the second vid, he had been to that arena a few times to ride...while at the first, he had never been to before and was a little lookier than normal. Ah well, He's coming along just fine.

    Thank you again!!!!
         
        07-08-2010, 11:24 PM
      #15
    Green Broke
    That's so fantastic to hear though. I think that's what irritates me about barrel racing most - it's always about the HORSE. Make the HORSE go faster, make the HORSE turn tighter, etc. So many barrel racers seem to have this idea they are perfect as riders without ever realizing maybe if THEY learned to ride first the horse would be faster and tighter!

    Very enjoyable videos, thanks so much for sharing.
         
        08-04-2010, 12:32 PM
      #16
    Foal
    You will never see my kick my horse in a barrel run..all I do is kiss/click, and lean slightly farward and he's off...he knows he is suposed to gallop in between barrels.

    Buckoff-
    Nice run but in between barrels try leaning forward but keep you rear in the saddle..it will give your horse more "Go". Settle your hands down between barrels to.
         
        08-04-2010, 12:46 PM
      #17
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by zanyoutthere    
    You will never see my kick my horse in a barrel run..all I do is kiss/click, and lean slightly farward and he's off...he knows he is suposed to gallop in between barrels.

    Buckoff-
    Nice run but in between barrels try leaning forward but keep you rear in the saddle..it will give your horse more "Go". Settle your hands down between barrels to.
    I'm not a forward rider, just not my style. I do have quiet hands. Thank you though.


         
        08-04-2010, 01:08 PM
      #18
    Banned
    I have several barrel racing (and gaming in general!) pet peeves. Most have been mentioned but heres one I just don't get. People whos horses are gate or chute sour. Its common in 4-H to have to be walked in by someone brave enough to hold your horse down. Once they get in the ring, the horse is on its hind legs pawing at the air. If this is happening...you are doing something wrong. A horse should love its job. A good gaming horse walks in (like all the girls in the videos demonstrated) runs a nice, fast, tight pattern. Stops when asked and walks out. The girls at open shows and local rodeo pumping their horses up before a run are, in my opinion, idiots. Your wasting the energy!

    A good gaming horse shouldnt need any more than maaaaybe a bumper spur for a clear cut leg signal. I see way to many girls with giganto spurs digging them in. Jeez...I wonder why he bucks on the run home?

    All this beating has to stop. A tap with an over under for encouragement is not what im talking about. I saw a girl last weekend almost fall off her horse smacking it so hard with an over-under. Same show, I saw a little girl on a tiny little pony who was trying his heart out. She had a leather bat and was sitting STRAIGHT UP on the run home, just so she could beat his butt the whole run. Then was mad that he didn't do well.

    As far as the OP goes, I think what you might be seeing is a powerful horse rocking a rider upright. My horse has a huuuuge hind end and when he comes out of a turn, his thrust pops me upright and sometimes back. By the time I correct myself, its time to turn again! LOL Upper level riders have this master...I play with games but never take it seriously.

    Oh and to the two girls in the videos, nice job. In my area, you see alot of 'pull and jab' riders...both of you ride a pattern well and have horses that can excel. Good luck!
         
        08-04-2010, 02:58 PM
      #19
    Foal
    Like Buckoff, I'm not very forward riding either. I wear rowel spurs, and I carry a crop. It's time for more speed between the barrels, so I will be using it to encourage Bugs to move along. My spurs, however, are used for keeping his shoulder up and moving his ribcage over. I totally disagree with kicking the crap out of your horse between each barrel, I squeeze and kiss. I crouch a little between barrels but not a bunch. If you jerk Bugs around the barrels, he is completely blown out of collection and you my want to hang the run up. I have to keep my hands up in front of me and close to his neck.
    that a video of me doing it wrong. Lol. My hands are too wide and pull(y). I was not pushing him etc..
         
        08-05-2010, 12:38 PM
      #20
    JRL
    Foal
    Alot of kicking and whipping is someone (In my opinion) trying to get a horse to do something it really doesnt want to do. I don't even kick my 1D barrel horse at all, she knows what she is doing and loves doing it! (mid 14s right now with no kicking or even spurs) I do sit in the turns but other wise im in a half seat. What you may be seeing is, on the launch, a fast barrel horse can throw you right off the back if you arent paying attention, espectially out of the pocket on the 3rd barrel! I do know that if I don't grab the saddle horn as Deja comes out of 3 I would be in the dust right next to 3. After a second or so though, I am half seated with my reins up on her neck. I stay on her center of gravity in a half seat as well because if you lean to far forward or back you can throw off her balance and lose time. I don't even use a tye down unless Im training a new barrel horse and I don't race with one either. I want my horse to be able to stretch out in between barrels and on the way home or become dependant on the tye down to balance and then have it break (seen it to many time...) Hopefully someday you get to try it because its one of the best feelings in the world! (which is why I train barrel horses for a living!!)
         

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