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post #1 of 30 Old 06-24-2010, 04:09 PM Thread Starter
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when do you switch to one hand and grab the horn?

When do you sit down?

When do you start to turn?

How many feet do you stay from the barrel during a run?

When do you rate?

How do you position your horse?

What are your top barrel practice patterns?

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post #2 of 30 Old 06-24-2010, 04:51 PM
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subscribing =] I am interested in reading the answers !

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when do you switch to one hand and grab the horn?I don't. Even running at top speed I never touch the horn unless I'm falling off.

When do you sit down? Right when we are about to turn. For my barrel horses, when I sit down and tell them to turn with the vocal cue they need to dive in right away to turn.

When do you start to turn? I am always set up to turn. Its a feel thing for me. Every horse will turn differantly. I had horse that turned at differant spots.

How many feet do you stay from the barrel during a run? I don't quite understand.....feet from the barrel? I don't like to be even a foot from it! The tighter the turn the better.

When do you rate? I always rate my horses during practice runs at home. I hardly ever go full speed, and when I do I am going to do a lot of walk/trot work before and after that.

How do you position your horse? I always keep the ribcage supported with my legs. I will lightly touch the mouth with my inside rein and support with my inside leg. This creates a bend around the barrel and helps for the turn. On the flat stretches I just give the horse his/her head and let them go.

What are your top barrel practice patterns? I'm a big fan of a figure eight pattern with just two barrels. I like setting the three barrels up in a line, too, to practice the weave. I want the horse to know that we aren't always going to do the same thing. If you always drill their brain, they are either gona get bored and dump you, or they will become drones who know nothing else.

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Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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Is there a reason you don't grab the horn?

Thanks:)

Also, I was told there was way to grab the horn and kinda lock your arm and it keeps you seated and secure and stops you from really bouncing during the turn. I'm not sure if that's the best way to explain it, or if I have it wrong, but does anyone do that? Can someone explain a little how to do it. I don't really understand.

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when do you switch to one hand and grab the horn?

When do you sit down?

When do you start to turn?

How many feet do you stay from the barrel during a run?

When do you rate?

How do you position your horse?

What are your top barrel practice patterns?

Thank you
1. I don't use the horn when I run. (mostly because my mare doesn't neck rein) But if you feel like you are slipping or moving around too much, I'd say go for it.2. I sit down about 2 strides before the barrel (to slow a bit for the turn)3. I start to turn when I'm right on the barrel, but start to get my mare's attention with the inside rein and outside leg a couple strides before.4. Feet away? You mean like pocketing it? I usually leave about 2 feet untill I can turn her basically just to get around the back part, and then really hug it.5. Rating, again about 3 strides away I start picking up the reins a little to show that I'm about to ask her to slow down a little. Through all 3 turns I am very ready to pick up the reins, then I give her full head coming home.6. For barrel (start) to 1 to 2 (I run left, right, right because my mare is right leaded) I like a very straight line. But after 2 I like her to swing out a little more to leave a better pocket so I don't have to move her while running up.7. Practices. Figure 8's, random barrel turns (not in pattern). Lead changes in genral, lots of circles at trot and lope. And just chane everything up. Don't even focus on the barrels every time you ride.
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Is there a reason you don't grab the horn?
I just don't need to. I have a good enough seat while running to not need it. I don't have the best seat ever but it's good enough to keep my hands free.
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when do you switch to one hand and grab the horn?

-I don't. I prefer to just have a solid seat and sit through my turn, but don't use the horn. I find more often than not it gets used as a crutch and tends to throw peoples balance, and thus the horse, off. If you're going to, you should only be holding while you are turning around the barrel to keep your seat deep.

When do you sit down?
- I sit to rate. Each horse will rate at a differant spot. My horse rates the second barrel and a differant spot than the first and third. But basically as soon as I want my horse to get his bum under him and turning, I'll sit.

When do you start to turn? Again, for each horse it's different. The most important thing is to FINISH your turn. Once you start, follow through. Too many people don't complete their turn and run straight out of the back end of the barrel.

How many feet do you stay from the barrel during a run?
...I don't really? So long as my shin isnt going to be touching the barrel, my horses shoulder is up and he is balanced, I am going to keep as close as I can.

When do you rate? See the other two answers :)

How do you position your horse? Balanced, nose slightly turned into the barrel, barrel and shoulders up and bent.

What are your top barrel practice patterns?
Not sure exactly what this means...I like to do lots of sprints, long trotting, cavaletti, dressage, trails...etc. Basic move the body parts independantly and keeping my horse supple. On the pattern, I will sometimes run it backwards, skip a barrel, just do one, etc. Or at where I would normally rate, I'll stop. My horse knows the pattern though. This is just to keep him fresh and paying attention.
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when do you switch to one hand and grab the horn?

When do you sit down?

When do you start to turn?

How many feet do you stay from the barrel during a run?

When do you rate?

How do you position your horse?

What are your top barrel practice patterns?

Thank you

Every horse runs different and has a different strategy to running barrels. This is what I do with my barrel horse:

When I'm in the chute I point myself and my horse towards the third barrel. I run towards it coming out of the chute, and when I'm almost lined up with the first barrel I make an arc towards it. Once I'm just a hair past the barrel, I sit down in my saddle, grab the horn, yell "hey!" to my horse for his cue to collect himself and turn, then I pull the rein towards my pocket of my jeans and gently push his side with my inside leg. I hold the horn A: to hang on! And B: so I don't interfere with his turn. It's better to turn with one hand instead of two so you aren't even dealing with his off side. Once he's on the other side of the barrel, I use two hands again and press my outside leg against his side to straighten him up. At the second and third barrel, I do the same exact thing with my turns. As for your pocket, there's no set "feet" you should stay away from it. You just guesstimate. Go in a little wide, stay away from the backside of the barrel, and come out close. This is where your legs come in handy. If your horse anticipates the turn of the barrel, do NOT turn his nose away from it. This will cause him to drop his shoulder and knock the barrel over. Instead, kick past the barrel and then turn. In practice, I like to stop right next to the barrel and back up about 3 steps, STRAIGHT backwards, and let him sit there for a second to take it in. This helps him keep his mind on you, and get himself collected. Do this at a trot first, walk around the barrel, and trot between barrels. Once I do that, I trot all the way through the pattern without stopping. Then, I lope up to the barrels, stop beside them, back up, stand a second, then trot around them, picking up a lope between barrels. When you finish the third barrel, do not run straight out. I take him to the rail and walk him. Only when I do my fast runs do I take him straight out. Once I do this a couple times I lope all the way through the pattern. I will only run my horse like I'm in a competition only about once every 3 weeks or so. I keep it at a lope most of the time. Also, I don't like to practice the barrels all that much. I like to take my horse out on the trails to keep his mind away from the barrels. I practice the pattern about once or twice a week and usually keep it no faster than a canter. The "funnel barrels" is a fun pattern that I like to use to practice my turns on. Here's a sketch of it. Please ignore the proportions on the lines around the barrels. Hard to draw with a computer pencil :] But this is the pattern and how it goes.

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Here's the sketch I did of the funnel barrels. Just click on the link.

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