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post #21 of 30 Old 06-26-2010, 02:09 AM
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I am a firm believer of barrel horses being trained in reining first. I see so many barrel horses nowadays with NO LEG, NO NECK REIN, and NO BRAKES! Basically they are trained to run like hell and never stop. God forbid the top trainers fade away to THIS technique of the next generation. Ugh it makes me mad.
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post #22 of 30 Old 06-26-2010, 10:46 PM
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Not many of the barrel racers I know are trained in reining. And these are people going to NBHA worlds every year that have also trained with Martha Josey. My mare isn't reining trained, and while I do think that it is extremely helpful, she doesn't need it. She neck reins, rollbacks, has the best brakes of all the runners on our local circuit, and goes almost completely off my leg.
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The best barrel hroses I have ever seen have at least 30 reining days on them. The barrel horses that are going on to the NFR and NBHA worlds are trained as barrel horses and barrel horses only. When a barrel horse is trained in reining, they have all tended to be calmer, more responsive, and have a lot better temperment. I know nearly all the barrel horses in my area are trained in reining first and they win win win, while the ones who aren't don't place as often.

I don't care how fast your horse is. If a barrel horse is crazy, I don't want to be near it. That's why I like the reining training. All my reiners are trained secondary in barrel racing or pole bending.

And I have gone to the NFR to watch nearly every year. Every barrel horse I've seen there has been jumping out of their skin, even when I went perusing the trailers. But there was one little reining mare there who stood calmly at the trailer, calmly at the alley, and ran calmly the entire time.

You can train your barrel horses however you want. But I want my barrel horses to be like that little filly.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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Where did I say any of these horses are crazy? They aren't. They all walk calmly into the gate, and walk right back out of the gate. They all stand nicely at the trailer. I also said that it is a GOOD thing to start with reining training, but that not many people that I personally know do it. They train strictly for barrels and they win everything. I personally cannot afford to send my horse out to a trainer, and I have no clue how to train a reiner. I do, however, know how to train a barrel horse. So I have, and I am. My mare falls asleep between classes, as do many of the others I run with.
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Good for you, then. I didn't mean to say all barrel horses are crazy, but if you're hoenst you would see that almost all of them are.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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I never said they weren't. 90% of barrel horses are insane. I was just pointing out that just because a horse doesn't have a reining foundation doesn't mean it's crazy or doesn't have talent. While I agree with the reining foundation and wish that I could send Chopper out for 30 days, for now I'm doing just fine. I did just fine with Annie and I'll continue a tried and true method that I have created.
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And I never said every horse should have a reining foundation. I'm just saying I want all of my barrel horses to have it because it helps more than most people realize.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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And I agreed with you. Honestly, even though you are very knowledgable I still think you(as well as I, mind you) have a heck of alot more to learn. You are young, and from your posts you make it sound like you know the best way to do anything and everything and what you say is best, which is not always true. It's also not always true for me, either. I know what works for one horse may not work for another.
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My horse has never been sent to a professional trainer. He is calm, quiet, and level headed. However, I have taken lessons on him. I've ridden him WP, Polo, Drill, endurance, cows, and taken some dressage lessons on him. I keep his mind busy and keep him off the pattern.

When I take him out, he wins. He also doesn't kill me.
Reining training is nice. But personally, I think any strong foundation with tons of consistency and focus on keeping your horse FRESH is going to help.
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I am a firm believer of barrel horses being trained in reining first. I see so many barrel horses nowadays with NO LEG, NO NECK REIN, and NO BRAKES! Basically they are trained to run like hell and never stop. God forbid the top trainers fade away to THIS technique of the next generation. Ugh it makes me mad.
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I had no idea anyone else on this forum had this idea. Every single barrel horse that I own has at least thirty days of reining training, if not more.

People always tell me that is a dumb idea, but when I let people ride around on my horse that has been through reining training, compared to their horse that has not, there is a noticeable difference.

Not to mention, my horses aren't prancy or insane in the gait.

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