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post #11 of 17 Old 01-07-2013, 11:16 PM
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I have a mare that was hotter than a tasmanian devil going in....oh how that was the miserablest 2yrs of my LIFE. She would rear, spin, take off in the OPPOSITE direction of the gate. She was just a hot idiot (bought her that way....she was a dream until her lovely 30 day tranq wore off and we found out her TRUE colors were). After those 2yrs I started her over from the ground up. After that hard work she walked in, I just had to slowly work my way up as about the 2nd to last person before me ran so I could just go right in. But all hell would break lose if you had some idiot run infront of you as your trying to go in the alley....then the fight was on since I had to grab her. But other then that she would walk in for the most part.

So since that lovely experience I make sure my horses are calm and cool. I can't stand a horse that is out of control going in. JJ gets a little hot at times but usually just at 3 day races where he KNOWS what he is there for, he gets chargey so I have to hold him a little tighter going in but he usually settles in once he knows he isn't going anywhere. His thing is about 5 before me I can feel him puff up (not really in a hot way, but in a I'm Ready way), he may get a little antsy when we are waiting in the indoor while his eyes adjust but once they call my name and we are heading to the gate he walks right in.

This is a good video that shows how he goes in 99% of the time...

When we get home after a race we do slow work the following ride especially if he is getting hot during the heavy schedule time of year to get him back on track. Because he is the hot type of horse and if in the wrong hands could be one of the crazy tazmanian devil type horses that you are like....Woah really?.

I do NOT tolerate horses acting like truely pisses me off more then anything when one starts acting out.

The other two are still early in training so they go in like durr duh dur. But when Scrat gets nervous he sorta is antsy but not hot....just his nerves sometimes get the best of him and he occasionally has a split second meltdown before he is like "oooooo kkkkk....I THINK I got this after all".

My expectations for my horses is to be calm, cool, and collect before they run and after they run (even though JJ is a puffed up, ADHD kid hyped up on Ice Cream and Mnt. Dew after he runs....he has a HILARIOUS swag and grows about 2 hands with his overflowing ego lol).

I don't want to be known as the girl with the crazy out of control horses, but the girl thats horses are calm and get the job done without a scene.
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post #12 of 17 Old 01-08-2013, 12:59 AM
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Usually at normal shows I get on and ride when we get there then tie my horse up at the trailer until about 20 horses before I run. We walk, trot, canter some circles, side pass some then just keep walking. I just try to keep him moving as much as possible, he hates standing anyway. I will keep walking even little circles in the holding pen until my name is called. As for your second question, Link isn't "hot" but he's not walking in the gate. He loves running and just wants to go, so I hold him back as long as I can to get farther into the arena. My old horse was hot without ever having a reason to be, annoying.
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post #13 of 17 Old 01-08-2013, 01:26 AM
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Its different for every horse i had a horse that pranced and shook his head, i had a horse that was calm until you walk through that gate and he bolted, i had a horse that reared and pranced
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post #14 of 17 Old 01-08-2013, 05:03 AM
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I don't mind a tense horse but I refuse, flat out refuse, to let my horse develop bad gate problems like rearing, spinning around, refusing to go in, etc. I don't care if my horse wants to jig, dance around, get strong, and I have to hold them back...But NO unwillingness. I don't care if I have to back up through the pattern if a horse displays that behavior we will get in that arena and we will go slow, we will make it calm, and we will do it nicely.

Selena, I am very fortunate with her. She will not do a thing. She was a reiner, won some money, and takes everything with the biggest chill pill right before she blasts off like buzz lightyear.

My older gelding was the same way. He was a reiner, same mindset, same chill pill. That's why I rode him as my peewee and youth mount back in the day, because he was automatic, relaxed, and took care of anyone but if you asked for him to really try...Hold on tight.

The arabs I used one season were just stupid however. I mean, really bad. They weren't my horses, they were just a lease for the summer gymkhanas because I was neck and neck with another girl to win the trophy saddle so my trainer found me something to ride when my gelding went lame. Ended up losing that race for the saddle because the arab mare would NOT go in the gate. One person in front, another in back, me kicking and swatting her, and finally they just said I was out of time and they had to move on. THAT is why I don't do horses with gate problems. Little bit of youth rider PTSD.

Plus, it's dangerous. In fact just yesterday at a $100 added race I took Selena to a horse **** near came over backwards on a girl who was trying to get in the gate. He wouldn't go, she swatted him on the butt, he came flying up, stumbled, and managed to right himself but my heart stopped watching it.

Ruger right now is starting to add speed on the pattern and being hauled to races to exhibition/time only. No bad habits or unwillingness so far. Hoping to keep it that way.

Pssh.I didn't pick up the wrong lead
It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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I agree every barrel horse should be taught that the gate is not a bad place
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post #16 of 17 Old 01-08-2013, 06:44 PM
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I agree every barrel horse should be taught that the gate is not a bad place
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Sorry, but yet you've had horses that you've allowed to rear, bolt, and otherwise misbehave? Just curious from your previous post, is all.

I too want my horse's going nicely into the arena without too much fuss. I don't mind if they get a little excited, but under no circumstances do I want them spinning, rearing, balking, bolting, or anything of that nature.

My coming 7-yr-old Red, who I am training very slowly on the barrels, is a very very hot and energetic horse. Hence why I am training him very slowly on barrels so he doesn't develop into an rearing idiot (which he would in the wrong hands). The last jackpot I took him to, he was practically falling asleep before our run! I was very happy. I like seeing him relaxed because it doesn't happen very often.

My old horse Beau (who I had to put down last fall) could walk into that arena like a western pleasure horse if I asked him to. And still stop the clock.

This is how I would usually enter the arena with him. Such a good boy!

The following year we went to a few local jackpots that allowed running starts, which he did quite good at, winning the 1D several times. He handled perfectly. Trotted up through the alley, and took off galloping at about the gate. No fuss. No rearing. No bolting. No monkey business. Just all business!
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post #17 of 17 Old 01-08-2013, 07:07 PM
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Blaze has never had any problems with the gate, no rear, bolt, just gets a little antsy if I get him pumped up enough. Shaking his head and dancing a little bit, but never refusing. He just wants to run! I've stuck a 9 year old on him to run before and she fell head-over-heels in love with him.
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