Selena making the first run of the season!

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Selena making the first run of the season!

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    10-21-2013, 02:06 AM
Selena making the first run of the season!

Well, here she is, my little spitfire pony.

Took her out to start our winter season. We only run SOBRA (Southern Oregon Barrel Racing Association) during the winter, so after this last gymkhana (Which I might be getting a buckle for - but it's not over til the last rider runs!!) it'll be only barrels for us.

We had a sloppy run, and she HATES this arena, but we still ran decently and won back our entry fees in the 4D. I was HOPING to sit in the 3D, but since we landed here in the beginning of the season I'm going to try and keep her there...Which means sandbagging...Something I do NOT excel in, lol!

Well enough rambling, here it is. You can critique if you want to but I see most of what I did wrong already...

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    10-21-2013, 10:13 AM
Green Broke
Aw, I miss T-shirt weather. Nice shades of pink!

Just make sure no one realizes you are sandbagging .... you don't want to get into trouble for it!

I don't see too much to critique. Make sure to tighten up that first barrel on the backside, and don't let her anticipate the 3rd. Which I'm sure you already know.
    10-21-2013, 10:43 AM
Good luck on that buckle! ;)
    10-21-2013, 10:47 AM
Looks good!

Is it common for people to partake in sand bagging?
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    10-21-2013, 10:52 AM
Green Broke
Good job.. what does it mean to be sandbagging? WHy would you get in trouble for that?
    10-21-2013, 01:04 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by barrelbeginner    
Good job.. what does it mean to be sandbagging? WHy would you get in trouble for that?
Jackpot barrel racing is often set up in a 4D format.

So let's say the fastest run of the day was 15.0 seconds. That would win the 1D. The 1D winning time will always vary, based on what the fastest run was.
A 15.5 second run would win the 2D.
A 16.0 second run would win the 3D.
And a 16.5 second run would win the 4D (although some associations would say a 17.0 second run would win the 4D ..... just depends on the association rules for the time splits.)

So in this example, let's say this was a weekly series. And let's say I went four times and got:
16.3 seconds --> points in the 3D
16.4 seconds --> points in the 3D
15.5 seconds --> points in the 2D
16.7 seconds --> points in the 4D
(Just for example's sake, let's pretend each race had a winning time of 15.0 seconds.)

So if I am competing for points for year-end awards, my best bet is to always to try to place in the 3D because that's where I have the most points accumulated right now. My horse is capable of placing in the 2D (because we had a fast time one time) but I don't have as many points in the 2D because I only placed there once.

So if I "sandbag" and don't push my horse as hard as they can go, I might continue to place in the 3D and rack up more points in the 3D. And possibly win year-end awards in that division.

Some associations have rules that if they see you pulling up your horse to try to purposefully slow down and clock a certain time, they will disqualify you or penalize you in some way. You should always be trying to make the best run your horse is capable of.

Of course, it is extrememly difficult to sandbag because you won't know what the winning time will be until the race is completed. And let's face it; it's extremely difficult to try to affect your time by a certain number of hundreths of a second.

But that's what "sandbagging" is.
    10-21-2013, 01:43 PM
^ Yep.

It's been consistent for the past couple years, of 16.5 (Give or take) sitting in the 4D and winning good money. It's definitely common around here to sand bag...Though some people haven't quite caught on yet, and are still pushing so hard and falling into the 75 riders that sit in the 3D (Which is our most crowded "D" around here) I don't really think Selena has a chance of placing there but I was hoping...

Our next race is on a bigger pattern which is going to be hard for me to hold her up in so my wishful thinking of sitting in the 4D is probably going to go down the!
    10-21-2013, 04:57 PM
Green Broke
I guess I personally don't "approve" of sandbagging, but that's just me.

I always want to know what my horse is capable of and how far they can go. I always have the mindset that they WILL be a 1D horse. Might take 11 or 12 years (did with Beau), and might never actually happen (my mother's horse) but I always push, push, push. I'm too competitive to just sit back, LOL.

But strategy is strategy.
    10-21-2013, 05:10 PM
I don't do it if I can help it.

It's an expensive association, and if I'm not going to do well there's no point in me taking her. That would be the reason for me doing it. It would drain my bank It's expensive because they literally throw prizes at you at the end of the year..ipad, halters, camp stoves, saddles, bridles, tack sets, the whole nine yards. It's the season itself that is hard to get any money in. I already paid my sponsorship, membership, and nomination
    10-21-2013, 05:29 PM
I had the chance to sandbag last year and win a saddle. Beginning of the saddle series when I first started showing Link we were in the 3D, I only needed a few points to win at the end and nobody else had brought their horse or had sold it. Instead I pushed him to the potential I knew he had and placed 2nd in the 1D. Just my thought, I'm not a fan of holding a horse back anytime.

But that's just me.
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