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post #11 of 28 Old 08-11-2010, 03:39 PM
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Wow some people can be pretty harsh:(

15 really isn't that old v.v I brought back a 15 year old gelding this year, he used to run barrels but had became a fat pasture pet for who knows how many years. And they did still run him, take him straight from the pasture to the show. He wasn't kept in shape. Now he's in great shape and is running neck and neck with my 9 yr old mare. He places about every show. Sure he was trained to do it before, but it's the same really. You just have to warm an older horse up more and take things slower. If your just wanting to do local event for fun theres no reason you can't. If the horse is in good shape, age doesn't really matter.
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post #12 of 28 Old 08-11-2010, 03:45 PM
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There are lots of horses started late on my gymkhana circuit. In fact, I've seen hears up to the age of 25 with peewee riders. And trust me, these little kids haul butt across tge timers and the horses are always ready to go. My Jester never gets painkillers and I ran him all last year. I wouldn't expect this horse to go on to the NFR, but I don't see why you can't bring home some ribbons on a circuit.
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post #13 of 28 Old 08-11-2010, 07:23 PM
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Exactly. There are consequences that the HORSE will pay, not the rider.

Of course, you can always dope the horse up on painkillers later, right? Or have her hocks injected if she gets too bad.

Seriously, why not just get a younger horse who's proven that they're decent at running barrels, instead of putting an older horse through that?
Annie is NOT doped up. As far as I know, she has never been given pain killers. She has barrel raced her ENTIRE life almost every weekend since she was 4 up until she was 16. And THAT is what I am reffering to when I mean it doesn't come without its consequences. She has spent her entire life using the same muscle groups running at breakneck speeds. Of course that is going to take a toll on her, just like professional athletes who work their entire lives in thier sport. Soon they develop problems.

Btw, Annie has been with her concurrent owners since she was 16. Her owners before that abused her. Annie is still rideable and I believe she is working with a young girl that takes lessons with my previous instructor.
When she was in my instructors care, she recieved the best treatment around. She got acupunture, hock injections, massages on a regular basis, and on one occasion, she was taken to hydrotherapy. They did EVERYTHING to make sure that horse was comfortable. If that meant she didn't race one weekend, then she didn't race. She was given the best supplements to keep her bones and joints working properly. She was given proper farrier care by her husband, and they had a vet out a least twice a year to make sure her arthritis wasn't getting any worse.

Annie loves to barrel race/pole bend. My instructor has two daughters, one of whom primarily rode Annie. She would NOT put her daughters or students on a phsychotic animal.

As for the OP, I will clarify to you what I meant in my last post. If you are expecting to train a 15 year old horse to compete at national level and win world titles, sorry to say it won't work. But since you only plan on using your horse for local shows on the occassion, go ahead. It is a great idea, and she certainly isn't too old to go a few rounds in the arena. It actually might help keep her fitness up. If she enjoys it, and you enjoy it, go ahead.

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post #14 of 28 Old 08-11-2010, 09:55 PM Thread Starter
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Ya no kinding some poeple can be harsh !!!!
She really does love barrel racing and loves going fast :P plus it's only for fun... I will defenatly be careful cause I care about my horse loads!!! Thanks for everyones opinion.

P.S : that joke about druging your horse ISNT funny AT ALL!!!!!!!
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post #15 of 28 Old 08-11-2010, 10:11 PM
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Ya no kinding some poeple can be harsh !!!!
She really does love barrel racing and loves going fast :P plus it's only for fun... I will defenatly be careful cause I care about my horse loads!!! Thanks for everyones opinion.

P.S : that joke about druging your horse ISNT funny AT ALL!!!!!!!
The days when 8 was old in the horse world are gone. If most of todays champions are in their teens/twenties, surely it can't hurt your horse to run a round on the barrels.

A training tip for you:
Slow work can be just as (if not more) effective as fast paced work. Running perfect patterns at the walk/trot will translate to better runs when you put the speed into the mix. It is also better on the horse.

Good luck with the Barrels!
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my friend takes her 24y/o mare to world BR finals every year. I started jasper on barrels when he was 16 and he took to it like an old pro

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I think it depends on what your horse has been doing for the past few years. If she has been only a weekend warrior trail horse, ridden only a few hours one day a week then no, I wouldn't reccomend getting her into barrels. However, if she is a conditioned athelete, then I don't see a problem with it. The reality probably falls somewhere in the middle, so you would have to decide if you have the time and knowledge to properly condition her.
If it were me personally, I wouldn't go any higher than entry level. She may love to run, but I would be more concerned about her joints if you were introducing barrels to her at this stage. My horse is 20 and can outrun quite a few younger horses in a flat stretch, but I wouldn't start Him on barrels at this stage of the game.
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I think it depends on what your horse has been doing for the past few years. If she has been only a weekend warrior trail horse, ridden only a few hours one day a week then no, I wouldn't reccomend getting her into barrels. However, if she is a conditioned athelete, then I don't see a problem with it. The reality probably falls somewhere in the middle, so you would have to decide if you have the time and knowledge to properly condition her.
If it were me personally, I wouldn't go any higher than entry level. She may love to run, but I would be more concerned about her joints if you were introducing barrels to her at this stage. My horse is 20 and can outrun quite a few younger horses in a flat stretch, but I wouldn't start Him on barrels at this stage of the game.
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post #19 of 28 Old 08-11-2010, 11:28 PM
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I don't think 15 is too old to fool around in gaming events; if the horse has no soundness issues, and is in decent shape. She may not have as much get up and go as some younger horses, but she certainly could do well enough. My mom has an Arab gelding who is in his mid 20s and he still runs well...no arthritus, or anything.

Obviously, if she hasn't done gaming events yet you will have to carefully train and condition her, but I see nothing wrong with changing careers as long as the horse is healthy.

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post #20 of 28 Old 08-11-2010, 11:37 PM
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Of course, you can always dope the horse up on painkillers later, right? Or have her hocks injected if she gets too bad.
And one more thing...I would NEVER associate myself with anybody who drugs their horse just to keep them running or to act appropriate in the show ring.

I know 2 or 3 people around here that do so, and I have a few choice thoughts about them. If anybody asked me for an opinion on them, they aren't going to be pleased with what I have to say about them.
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