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    10-13-2011, 06:11 PM
  #1
Green Broke
She's too hot

I've tried trotting and walking and it works...sometimes.

Gidget is waaaay too hot. I have to hold her back or she will take off before I'm ready. She tosses her head if I don't let her go and I end up have to trot her in small circles. She sees those barrels and she just wants to go....I am not sure if this is bad or good. I am glad she wants to go but don't want any accidents or have her become a nut case in the arena...she isn't hyper any other time just when she sees them.

I feed her 1.5 lbs of alfalfa pellets a day. I have to feed her a simple diet because she colics all the dang time. I add her probiotics to this...I don't think this amount could make her hot.


I am using a snaffle..I hate pulling on her mouth.I tried a curb bit and she still doesn't do well in it...she responds a bit better but I prefer to use something that is more lateral.
     
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    10-13-2011, 06:39 PM
  #2
Weanling
I am not a barrel racer, but if my horses were doing that, I wouldn't run the pattern...ever, at all, until they settled down and stopped anticipating. It's always easy to add speed, getting the proper movements and form is the hard part.

You don't even necessarily have to walk the pattern, just meander around the barrels. Don't use the barrels every time she sees them-school around them and just have them in the arena. Make the barrels common and nothing to fret about.
     
    10-13-2011, 07:33 PM
  #3
Green Broke
Mix her up. Yes she is anticipating(my boy is the same way) My trainer has taught me to mix him up. She thinks you are going straight to that first barrel well turn her before the barrel and serpantine her till she calms down then continue to the barrel the second she gets to hot going to the barrel serpentine again. My boy has gotten better with this method so it might work.
     
    10-13-2011, 07:45 PM
  #4
Yearling
I think most people have a problem with this. The main thing comes to be that when they get hot the more you try to keep them still the worse they get. Get her moving, my favorite is a 10m circle and giving loose rein. They tend to rush and bolt into it but after a few circles they calm down and settle into it. Then work into a figure eight and just keep moving. Don't run until she calms down....and over all preferably don't run her at all!

The best thing you can do is ONLY trot/canter the pattern calmly and try your best to NOT work on the pattern itself. I love doing spirals to get Jake's attention when he is feeling his oats! It makes him work HARD and he actually uses the wider space as a break and relaxes when I let him spiral back out. I sometimes do spirals around one barrel, or in the center of all three, sometimes I do the pattern backwards or just randomly go around and turn around barrels at my own choosing, while also passing by barrels at my own choosing without turning. Because barrels is always the same and use a high level of energy horses often know the pattern that they don't need the rider, and there fore do not listen to their rider because they think "hey I got this, I know exactly what's going to happen" Jakes best events were always the ones I never practiced because he never knew when to weave or to do a full turn, so he always listened better.
     
    10-13-2011, 07:53 PM
  #5
Yearling
Here is how I work with Jake when he is hot, I don't pull straight back because it just created more tension. I don't fight him in the gate because he can throw one heck of a tantrum because of it, and the gate people are always in my way. But the calmer I make him in the arena the better he is with the gate. Circles and circles before he calmed down enough for a loose rein later in the same show.

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    10-13-2011, 10:08 PM
  #6
Weanling
Horsesdontlie....honestly I'm not impressed. I think you're making your horse worse.
You're pretty much screwed if you haul somewhere that doesn't have room before the timer. He is throwing a tantrum ;)

Is all you're feeding her alfalfa? If so, that's a big no.

Just because you're using acsnaffle doesn't mean you're doing her any favors if you're continuously pulling back. Do you have a video?
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    10-13-2011, 10:25 PM
  #7
Yearling
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Originally Posted by 1RedHorse    
Horsesdontlie....honestly I'm not impressed. I think you're making your horse worse.
You're pretty much screwed if you haul somewhere that doesn't have room before the timer. He is throwing a tantrum ;)

Is all you're feeding her alfalfa? If so, that's a big no.

Just because you're using acsnaffle doesn't mean you're doing her any favors if you're continuously pulling back. Do you have a video?
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I'm not too sure where your really saying with that. There is tons of room before the timer, If you look in the background, the cones are where the timer starts. I have about a 1/4th of that huge arena to prepare for my run. I'm not making my horse worse if he is getting better consistently? I'm always ready to learn what would you do with a horse that only gets hot during shows? I've tried the slowing it down and only trotting patterns, he would get hot again soon as I would gallop him. I've tried multiple things and this is what has worked best. It was better than two shows before where he would walk into the arena on his hind legs and I couldn't keep his front feet on the ground, I stepped back took a break from showing spent time working at home, then brought him back a few months later. First it would take me a minute to get him calm and walking on a loose rein, now it takes him about 15 seconds, all in due time. I'm just stating how I got results.
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    10-13-2011, 10:35 PM
  #8
Foal
Im not a barrel racer but if I were you I would liten to the others.
     
    10-13-2011, 10:37 PM
  #9
Weanling
I'm saying at any other arena, you wouldn't be able to make circles like that.

Plus, it's a bad habit. I do it on colts in exhibition barrels to help them catch their correct lead and settle them, but that's only at first.

I've NEVER had a hot horse act like that. I have horses that are ready to run, but not horses that act up in the ally. I do ALOT of hauling and exhibitioning on my barrel horses. I walk the alley and lope a circle or two in the arena, before and after their run. I keep it simple, don't over drill.

By doing this I've never had a horse act up. And if they do, it's usually bc they need injections or a chiro adjustment.


Sorry, but if that's the only way you can settle him down, you're asking for bigger problems in the future. The rodeo associations I do won't even let you circle in the arena.
     
    10-13-2011, 10:50 PM
  #10
Yearling
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Originally Posted by 1RedHorse    
I'm saying at any other arena, you wouldn't be able to make circles like that.

Plus, it's a bad habit. I do it on colts in exhibition barrels to help them catch their correct lead and settle them, but that's only at first.

I've NEVER had a hot horse act like that. I have horses that are ready to run, but not horses that act up in the ally. I do ALOT of hauling and exhibitioning on my barrel horses. I walk the alley and lope a circle or two in the arena, before and after their run. I keep it simple, don't over drill.

By doing this I've never had a horse act up. And if they do, it's usually bc they need injections or a chiro adjustment.


Sorry, but if that's the only way you can settle him down, you're asking for bigger problems in the future. The rodeo associations I do won't even let you circle in the arena.
I never been a show where I was required to start in an alley (At 7+ arenas). I mostly did Gymkhana and local rodeos where they were all set up like that. All of them required you either fully stopped or circled before you run. Absolutely no running through the gate allowed. This horse would probably not have the personality to be able to do that kind of runs, he is too self destructive, so I have always done lower key stuff with him. This horse has a very odd personality, and what I did worked. I introduced him poorly to barrels when I was young, in a sense I ruined him for barrels. I've tried to fix up his issues since then. By the end he was doing good, no temper tantrums and focused.

I no longer barrel race with him as we have switch over to english and he has been having some lameness issues. I feel confident that he would be able to calmly handle the situation if I did show again.
     

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