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  • English horse racing results 08/03/2013

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    08-03-2012, 12:16 AM
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Foal
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Well, after my boss' horse gave me a black eye, didn't place in any pleasure classes . Some horses getting loose ruined both me and Babs focuses during WP and Babs not wanting to stand by the gate didn't help us on trail . Pretty good for her first show but I'll no longer ride her English haha at least at shows..

The video is our barrel run . We placed 2nd in Barrels, Poles and Keyhole ! We ended up switching running Jenna to the left and in video, that's her best 3rd barrel ever . Any critiques or comments would be nice (:

Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2DMQSB_PEc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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    08-03-2012, 11:02 AM
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Green Broke
You checked way too early going to the first barrel, that's why she "pogo'd" so bad and bounced you out of your seat.. You could really work on your hand work when running period, they are kind of every where between barrels and you can really see that you are pulling her over and creating that pop over effect before the second barrel that's why it's not smooth and you're bouncing every where. When going from barrel to barrel you want a straight line (at an angle), not going over to the side then popping over. You are really confusing her and making her pogo again and that's why you're kind of scattered before your turns which makes it weird for both of you. Then again coming out of the second barrel your hands are every where again..Even like high in the air, you need to have low and quiet hands. When your hands are up in the air like they are you're making the bit bump her mouth over and over again which just confuses her (Because you're kicking her asking for speed and at the same time telling her to slow down with your hands)..When running out your hands should be low and forward on above her neck, it gives her full rein to really run and you aren't in her mouth with the bit..

There is also a LOT of tail swishing going on.. This could mean a few different things but more than likely a pain issue (It could be from ill fitting tack to an actual heath problem or soreness) OR it could be the horse becoming sour and not wanting to really run barrels anymore.. Both pain issues and being sour can cause your horse to not want to really give you her all.. Which she is clearly not doing in the video.

Please don't take this as being rude.. I'm really just giving you a critique, I don't beat around the bush..
     
    08-04-2012, 10:29 AM
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Foal
Nope, I believe everything you say . I've noticed I keep my hands high, since I saw just how bad it was in this video I've been working really hard on keeping my hands low . And yeah, I'm aware that I really had to awkwardly over compensate for not finishing our first barrel .

Do you have any tips on how to get her to use her hind end ? Like specific drills . We haven't touched the pattern since this show , just been trail riding and playing on the obstacle course to give her something fun to do .
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    08-04-2012, 10:01 PM
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Green Broke
Honestly, I think you'd greatly benefit from going back to the very basic drills.. Make ALL of those movements and skills perfect before asking for anything more speed wise..make it perfect at a walk..then trot and make it perfect, then move to a lope.. Just making sure you have it PERFECT at the different gaits before advancing any further.. You AND your horse will gain a lot from starting over, you can work on your hands and seat.

I'm not sure if you've seen my barrel drills thread but there are a lot of great ideas you should check out, lots of exercises. Go back and work on flexing, counter arches, side passing, serpentines, use different objects (not just barrels,poles, or cones) Change things up and make your horse listen to you and focus on what you're both doing. Keep her mind working on new things and she'll have to learn to depend on you to tell her what her next move will be..

Go check this out..
Barrel Racing Exercises and Drills.
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    08-05-2012, 03:31 PM
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Foal
Okay, thanks !
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    08-05-2012, 03:53 PM
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Green Broke
You're welcome! Let me know if you have any other questions.
     
    08-06-2012, 11:17 AM
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Green Broke
Ditto to DrumRunner.

I would completely take your horse off of barrels for a while, and work on the maneuvars DrumRunner mentioned. I'm actually doing the same with my barrel prospect right now. No barrels until I can control each and every part of his body, at all times and at all gaits. Sidepassing, diagonals, rollbacks, turns on the fore, lead changes, breaking at the poll, arcs and counter-arcs, etc.

We've given you this same advice in your other post Critique My Run !

When you get back to pattern work, AFTER you've worked on general training with her, you need to SLOW the pattern down. You don't realize the bad habits you are creating with her right now. Bad habits are very hard to fix. Go back down to trotting until you can do everything perfect: Your hands, your body, her collecting and rounding around the barrels, perfect straight lines from barrel to barrel (no arches), etc.

Your horse has potential and although I know you want to see results right now and figure the problems will just go away if you keep going at it, you need to back off, slow down, and fix things. I can say this because I used to think the same thing at one point in time. But it doesn't work. You have to do things SLOW and correct.
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    08-06-2012, 11:19 AM
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Green Broke
I would also recommend you to go on YouTube and search for National Finals Rodeo barrel racing. And just watch the top ladies do their barrel runs. Watch where their hands are. Watch what their legs are doing. Watch their body position. Watch how their horse is moving. Things are smooth, and correct (most of the time ..... you still get a bad turn every now and then when the thousandth of a second counts and its all out).
     
    08-06-2012, 11:24 AM
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Weanling
Before I'd do a clusterfunk of slow work, I'd get your horse checked for pain. I see a very uncomfortable horse. All the slow work in the world won't fix that.

Then as others have mentioned really get your horse broke off the pattern. A trainer would be great
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    08-06-2012, 01:22 PM
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Green Broke
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Originally Posted by 1RedHorse    
Before I'd do a clusterfunk of slow work, I'd get your horse checked for pain. I see a very uncomfortable horse. All the slow work in the world won't fix that.

Then as others have mentioned really get your horse broke off the pattern. A trainer would be great
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I definitely saw the same, it could be pain or pissyness because OP is all over and throwing the horse off. Either way, I would check her for pain..
     

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