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  • How much acepromizine to take the edge off horse
  • Use of acepromazine in horses for taking the edge off riding

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    04-16-2012, 10:17 PM
  #11
Green Broke
Soo, I didn't have a chance to ride this weekend..but I did finally get pictures of the new bit I'm trying.. Supposedly it's going to work for us, and I've ridden her in it once with a LOT of success..Tell me what you think.. We have a show this weekend so I'm going to probably just trail ride a few days this week and maybe do drills one day.. She hasn't been ridden in almost 3 weeks now because I've been out of town so the barrel work hasn't been seen since the show..


     
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    04-16-2012, 10:19 PM
  #12
Started
The baler twine is classy... my comp wont let me see the other pic.
     
    04-16-2012, 10:25 PM
  #13
Trained
What Sierra said is so sad. I really hope that you can get through to her Amber! Have you tried a calming supplement with her at shows? Just to take the edge off? I know some barrels horses it will have no effect on but it might be worth a try to see what happens? I'm not talking about doping her to the point where her head's dragging the ground but just enough to get her relaxed.

If she were mine, I'd haul her to shows and trot the pattern. I wouldn't even canter her. I'd trot to the barrel then walk around it. I'd love to see a video of what she's doing and whether it's a fear related issue or an arena sour issue. I find it so odd that she'll worth great at home, but spaz's while in the ally/arena. My pony was like that, but he was never abused. What I did with him was started carrying a crop and not dealing with his crap anymore. When he started throwing a fit and backing and rearing, he'd get smacked in the butt. It only took a few times and we were on track to winning. But like I said, he wasn't abused and treated roughly, just spoiled and arena sour.

Having a horse that doesn't run is the most frustrating issue. Especially when the the horse is SOOOO good and you know it, but it acts like an idiot in public.

By the way, I can't see the 2nd picture. But that bit looks very close to what I run my lease horse in...Do you have a frontal shot?
     
    04-16-2012, 10:28 PM
  #14
Green Broke
Maybe try getting there earlier and walking her in and out of the ally and around the arena?
     
    04-16-2012, 10:30 PM
  #15
Green Broke
While Sierra is right in a few spots in her post..There is a good bit of knowledge that she is lacking..

Lark was ran at home AND shown by the guy who cowboy'd her, between that and the bicycle chain bit to start with..not the makings for a light mouthed horse.. Also, Sierra and I both know that "D" is a VERY heavy handed rider and is all over the place when he rides..

The day my sister rode her a few years ago, Lark was SO heavy mouthed then that she ran into the fence with my sister on her and from Holly pulling on the reins so hard she tore a good chunk of skin and meat off of her hand trying to get Lark to sit and turn..

The show that Sierra ran Lark at in 2007, they drugged Lark to try to get her to back down a little, then because of "jocky errors" Sierra fell off..


Sierra, while YOU may think she's "done", I don't believe she's "ran her course", I just don't believe it's going to be "fixed" in a few months.. I'd rather not push her too fast, I'll wait it out and let her figure it out.. I have more than a few cards up my sleeve for bringing her back around, but however I do it, it's not going to be by force..

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Originally Posted by QHriderKE    
The baler twine is classy... my comp wont let me see the other pic.
The bit isn't mine, and I have enough respect for the owner to not mess with their "stuff".. I'm just trying it to decide if I want to find and buy one.. So classy or not, it works, and it's not mine so I'm not going to cut it off..

     
    04-16-2012, 10:32 PM
  #16
Banned
Quote:
Originally Posted by CLaPorte432    
What Sierra said is so sad. I really hope that you can get through to her Amber! Have you tried a calming supplement with her at shows? Just to take the edge off? I know some barrels horses it will have no effect on but it might be worth a try to see what happens? I'm not talking about doping her to the point where her head's dragging the ground but just enough to get her relaxed.

If she were mine, I'd haul her to shows and trot the pattern. I wouldn't even canter her. I'd trot to the barrel then walk around it. I'd love to see a video of what she's doing and whether it's a fear related issue or an arena sour issue. I find it so odd that she'll worth great at home, but spaz's while in the ally/arena. My pony was like that, but he was never abused. What I did with him was started carrying a crop and not dealing with his crap anymore. When he started throwing a fit and backing and rearing, he'd get smacked in the butt. It only took a few times and we were on track to winning. But like I said, he wasn't abused and treated roughly, just spoiled and arena sour.

Having a horse that doesn't run is the most frustrating issue. Especially when the the horse is SOOOO good and you know it, but it acts like an idiot in public.

By the way, I can't see the 2nd picture. But that bit looks very close to what I run my lease horse in...Do you have a frontal shot?
I forgot to mention....Mr B did give her a little something something to calm her at shows sometimes.....he gave her a shot after I came off that day and the other two events I ran on her were much better...I stayed on :) haha.....he even recommended amber do that at shows...I can not for the life of me remember what it is he would give her but it was legal and was just used to take the edge off


I can only see the side view picture...looks like a gag bit to me
     
    04-16-2012, 10:36 PM
  #17
Trained
When I was having issues with my pony I used a paste called "Calm and Cool" I don't believe in injecting a horse with something to take the edge off. Something more natural was what I was thinking. This stuff came in a tube like dewormer or bute.

ETA: That's almost like the bit that my lease horse uses. She performs VERY well in it. She really likes the mouthpiece. The only difference is the curve of the shank. Mine it's as straight as that particular one. I'd ridden many different horses in that bit and they all seem to respond very well to it. (I have very light hands too.)
     
    04-16-2012, 10:42 PM
  #18
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by sierrams1123    
I forgot to mention....Mr B did give her a little something something to calm her at shows sometimes.....he gave her a shot after I came off that day and the other two events I ran on her were much better...I stayed on :) haha.....he even recommended amber do that at shows...I can not for the life of me remember what it is he would give her but it was legal and was just used to take the edge off


I can only see the side view picture...looks like a gag bit to me
I refuse to drug her. Period.. We both know this.

He gave her ACE, or Acepromazine..It's not a "Calming" drug, it's a tranquilizer.. A shot 1 hour before each run.. Mr. B and I have had this conversation..He gave Lark ACE before her runs when D was running her..
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    04-16-2012, 10:45 PM
  #19
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrumRunner    
I refuse to drug her. Period.. We both know this.

He gave her ACE, or Acepromazine..It's not a "Calming" drug, it's a tranquilizer.. A shot 1 hour before each run.. Mr. B and I have had this conversation..He gave Lark ACE before her runs when D was running her..
Using Acepromazine in Horses
I completely understand that.

What about rubbing lavender oil into her nostrils before taking her into the arena? Lavender is great for relaxation with a proper massaging technique, it'll feel really good too!
     
    04-16-2012, 10:48 PM
  #20
Trained
ETA: That's almost like the bit that my lease horse uses. She performs VERY well in it. She really likes the mouthpiece. The only difference is the curve of the shank. Mine's not as straight as that particular one. I'd ridden many different horses in that bit and they all seem to respond very well to it. (I have very light hands too.)

(Time for editing ran out and that particular sentence didn't make sense. LoL)
     

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