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        08-24-2010, 06:17 PM
      #31
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gidget    
    I don't use mine all the time. I use em if she won't go and she stalls...or I do it I am loping and I kiss and tap-not hard-
    Spurs are not meant to make a horse go. They are to make them move their body around. More lateral movement then forward movement.
         
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        08-24-2010, 06:21 PM
      #32
    Green Broke
    Well I am just saying what works for my horse. Like I said she was a barrel racer and well sadly a lot of them yank at the mouth and kick the living poop out of them to make them go fast. I don't do that and I do use them to make her move around instead of using my reins...I usually let her head relax and she seems very happy.

    I'm sorry you may disagree but I know what works for my horse and that's that.
         
        08-24-2010, 06:45 PM
      #33
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by smrobs    
    I only have one horse that wear spurs on and I only very seldom use them. Denny is so sensitive that he would freak out if I touched him with a spur. Most the other horses I ride are green and spurs don't do any good on green horses,

    Funny I have spurs on all my green horses with in a few rides. You would be surprised what they know and how fast they learn to move off the spur. Does not take long.


    the create tail wringers and can cause bucking.

    Not if you are using them correctly. Do not have one bucker or tail wringer.


    Dobe is the only horse I wear mine on because, while he is a very well trained horse, he occasionally has his sluggish moments where he knows he needs to get in front of that cow but just doesn't want to. A little press or bump from a spur will wake him up and remind him "I don't mean in a minute, I mean NOW".

    Spurs are not meant to make a horse go but to move off your leg.

    What most people don't realize is that using spurs with every stride (like you see a lot of barrel racers do) actually causes a horse to run slower than what his potential is. They begin to anticipate the pain of the spurs and to brace their belly against it, essentially sucking their belly up away from the spurs. That shortens their stride and makes them run slower. I get much better results (and sounder minded horses) with soft, steady leg pressure when I ask for the flat out run.
    This is why most barrel racers use spurs to turn and whips to go.
         
        08-24-2010, 06:51 PM
      #34
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Frankiee    
    I believe there is no reason to use spurs at all!!! I understand some horses are trained with spurs, I just don't see why you can't just use your heels. Especialy in gaming if your horse lovees to run you should not need to push then. Shure it may help but there is other ways to get your horse more responsive. This is only my opion tho
    You are missing the point of spurs. They are so you can give the smallest cue. I can use 2 lbs of pressure with out spurs or 2 ounces with spurs. I can get a horse to turn and do a 180 with spurs or get a horse to turn and do a "U" tune with out spurs. It is the refinement you get with spurs. Can I get my horses to do everything with out them? Yes. However I can get them to do it better crisper with them.
         
        08-24-2010, 06:54 PM
      #35
    Showing
    Personal preferance with spurs on greenies, I just don't feel the need to use them because I do occasionally get one that will buck or spook big and I don't want to risk jabbing them with a spur when they do (that will cause them to buck or buck harder).

    I don't use them on Dobe to get him to go forward. Perhaps I wasn't precise enough in my last post. I use them similar to how a cutter does, when he doesn't track the cow himself, I will sometimes use a spur to move him over if he isn't quick enough off my leg.

    If that is how the barrel racers are in your area, then you are lucky to be surrounded by good ones. Nearly every one I see is jabbing with every stride between the barrels and on the way home.
         
        08-24-2010, 08:11 PM
      #36
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by smrobs    

    If that is how the barrel racers are in your area, then you are lucky to be surrounded by good ones. Nearly every one I see is jabbing with every stride between the barrels and on the way home.


    Agree with smorbs.


    Most people around here will jab em constantly and it is sad that they do that. They will take whips or crops and smack em,it's horrible. Barrel racers are not gentle with their horses around here.



    And I am not missing the point. I am just explaining how my horse will respond to spurs and yes,I can make her turn on a dime and I don't have to use spurs all the time. You may have better trained horses but every horse is trained differently and it is obvious she is trained with spurs the way the barrel racers here do..go,go,go and turn. I am just explaining.

    BTW, I am taking lessons soon...had some for english but the town was far away so I am looking for western riding lessons since that is what I usually do.

    I am kind of offended only because I can see that you think you are a better rider and yes, you are. I've been riding for about a year and still learning. Obviously your horse is trained differently. Not every horse is trained the exact same way. Maybe your horse has been more properly trained but I know that my horse does what I want most of the time..some days she is grumpy but even animals have their days.
         
        08-25-2010, 09:24 AM
      #37
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
    You are missing the point of spurs. They are so you can give the smallest cue. I can use 2 lbs of pressure with out spurs or 2 ounces with spurs. I can get a horse to turn and do a 180 with spurs or get a horse to turn and do a "U" tune with out spurs. It is the refinement you get with spurs. Can I get my horses to do everything with out them? Yes. However I can get them to do it better crisper with them.
    ^^^This is what I was trying to say. But you did it way better then me.

    And I run barrels in NBHA, Right now with very little showing, my horse is running just outside 2D times, w/o spurs or whips.
    Yet my filly im getting ready for reining, w/o spurs she is VERY Sloppy.
         
        08-30-2010, 10:58 PM
      #38
    Trained
    Personally, I don't use them, as a general rule...If I am retraining a horse that is, say, maybe a bit lazy about leg pressure, or leg cues in general, I will, but only as long as it takes to get the response I am looking for. In the hands of an experienced rider, I see no problems with spurs, I just like to use as 'little as necessary' with my horses.
         
        08-31-2010, 09:38 AM
      #39
    Weanling
    You have a point nrhareiner.

    But that is the way your horse is trained, in the end it really all depends on your horse. If you and your horse can do everything without them why decide to train with them in the first place???? Just wondering. Yes it make movement sharper but did you ever wonder why. I honestly don't know but in my opinion would be that the pressure is more intense and my hurt a little more? But then again the cues is cleaner, idk . I guess it depend on how you use them. But I still don't llike them.
         
        08-31-2010, 10:28 AM
      #40
    Banned
    I train my horses with and without spurs, I only use them when I'm either at a rodeo or doing alot of hard practicing. My horses know that when I have spurs on I'm all business and there won't be any stupidness allowed. If I just did rail work or other small things I don't use spurs
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