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post #11 of 29 Old 12-04-2011, 11:04 PM Thread Starter
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How much do the billy allens cost? I don't want to really use a twisted bit. I have never used one and they look like they really hurt. I use a snaffle for trails and to work on lateral but it DOES NOT work when I run with her. The one bit I am using now works..kinda but I still have her running through the bit and it can be horrible. I don't want to rip at her mouth. I know I will probably recieve a bunch of crap for going up to a different bit besides a snaffle but horses vary and I'm finding that I need some more control. I don't want to be heavy in the hands but when I feel like I have no control I automatically do.
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post #12 of 29 Old 12-04-2011, 11:30 PM
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How much do the billy allens cost? I don't want to really use a twisted bit. I have never used one and they look like they really hurt. I use a snaffle for trails and to work on lateral but it DOES NOT work when I run with her. The one bit I am using now works..kinda but I still have her running through the bit and it can be horrible. I don't want to rip at her mouth. I know I will probably recieve a bunch of crap for going up to a different bit besides a snaffle but horses vary and I'm finding that I need some more control. I don't want to be heavy in the hands but when I feel like I have no control I automatically do.
I don't know why you would receive crap. Not every horse can run in a snaffle, and that's okay. As long as you aren't jerking the horse's head off, there is no problem with moving up to a slightly more aggressive bit.

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well I know some people say you should only ride in a snaffle and there is no need to go up from anything from that as your horse should be soft and responsive...well I will be honest..that's not my horse. She's sweet and I love her to death but when she wants to run and full on run...it's a bit hard to stop her if I decide to want to stop...her gaits are walk,trot,canter,haul butt! Today I was galloping in the pasture and working on the woes but when I asked her to canter and once I got her going all she wanted to do was run and haul butt. I had to do a one rein stop and I looked down and there were skid marks O.O...okay...the ground is soft due to it being winter and the rain season. Hasn't rained much lately but when it did it was raining cats and dogs so the ground is pretty soft...anyways,enough rambeling.
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post #14 of 29 Old 12-05-2011, 12:44 AM
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If every horse could run in a snaffle, you'd see a lot more NFR qualifiers trying to run them. You could try switching up to a twisted wire snaffle, the twisteds are harsher but not really "Oh-my-god-abuse" worthy by any means, unless you get them wire thin. You can pick one up for $16 at Big R [It says "Are" because of the filter >.>] in White City or the Horse Blanket would have them I'm sure. They had them full cheek and loose ring last time I looked, and I run Bailey in a full cheek.

Billy Allen's are a little bit on the expensive side, but some of them aren't too bad.

Billy Allen Bits

Also, I was thinking back to what my other barrel horses used to run in. If you don't like the billy allen, you could try a Simplicity bit or a "Delight Smooth" by Carol Goosetree. I've never had to try a Loomis on my own horses, but I know several people who have ridding in the Loomis draw gag.

Here's Dena Kirkpatrick on it, I like what she says.

Dena Kirkpatrick on bits for barrel racing

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It's called a counter canter...
...A very advanced maneuver.
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post #15 of 29 Old 01-19-2012, 01:14 PM
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Well depending on the issues you are having with the bit you are using or what your horse is doing I will put in my two cents! My horse has a lot of go and he doesn't like to rate at the barrel and stop at the end. He also drops his shoulder into the barrel pretty bad. I use the Carol Goostree Shoulder Holder bit. It is good for shoulder dropping and anticipating the barrel. It has a solid mouthpiece so it is also good for really bendy horses.
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post #16 of 29 Old 01-19-2012, 01:50 PM
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I love my bit, have used it on several horses and all really liked it as well. The only thing I would change about it is to maybe get one with a bit smaller shank.
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post #17 of 29 Old 01-19-2012, 11:32 PM
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Nikki has a twisted snaffle combination bit..something like this..


Lark and Hickory both run in a Jr Cowhorse bit...Love love love it!



I recommend the Jr Cowhorse bit all the time..It's great.

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post #18 of 29 Old 01-20-2012, 12:41 AM
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I love the Jr. Cowhorse too, I had one w/ a dogbone in the middle but it was stolen


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I run my mare in either a twisted snaffle (with or without a copper mouth piece) or a Jr Cow Horse bit. Both of these bits have become my "go to" bits for just about any thing in the past few years.
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post #20 of 29 Old 01-20-2012, 01:37 AM
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Sierrams1123: Why do you use the twisted wire instead of the straight?


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