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    01-05-2012, 12:16 PM
  #11
Trained
Bailey goes in a Myler twisted snaffle. She's one of those that just hates shanks, gags, and bits in general, but she LOVES this bit.

Rebel goes in a Billy Allen.



My new filly (Well I guess she's not a filly now) goes well in the Sherry Cervi Diamond Lifter, with the dogbone mouthpiece.



Bit both my older arabs I had ran in little s hackamores.

     
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    01-05-2012, 03:59 PM
  #12
Weanling
Sorrelhorse.....seems like you've had more horses and more experience than most 30 year olds. Studs....Arabs....colts etc.
You look pretty young to have done all that.
     
    01-05-2012, 04:03 PM
  #13
Weanling
....oh I run my mare in a Myler comfort snaffle.
     
    01-05-2012, 11:03 PM
  #14
Trained
1Red, I have switched horses a ridiculous amount of times :/ Its been really hard to find horses to stick with, from lameness to nuttiness to just plain not clicking. Plus I often ran a lot of differant horses at the same show. The stud I have had for ages, that's Jester. The two arabs I had for half a year on a lease. The colts have just been a part of life for me since I was little....I'm hoping I can finally settle into a rythym with this mare and filly I have right now, but I'm trying not to get my hopes up because as history proves we have horrid luck. Last horse I had was excellent when I tried her out, got her home and she turned out to be drugged with painkillers when we rode her and lame in both hind legs. Then before that we bought an older gelding, who proceeded to pick a fight with another gelding and get run under a fence, torn up pretty bad, and had to be retired. Got a couple stories like that. And since I ride a lot of my trainers horses, I don't actually "Own" all of the horses I ride.
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    01-06-2012, 01:58 PM
  #15
Trained
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Originally Posted by 1RedHorse    
Sorrelhorse.....seems like you've had more horses and more experience than most 30 year olds. Studs....Arabs....colts etc.
You look pretty young to have done all that.
I'm 23 and I've had the priveledge of knowing multiple trainers and my step aunt whom owned a breeding farm. I've been lucky to be able to work with a wide variety of horses from stallions to ex racehorses, starting horses under saddle, rescueing horses, and training wild horses off the range, as well as owning my own lovely ones too.
     
    01-07-2012, 06:11 PM
  #16
Green Broke
My horse runs in a Jr. Cow Horse short-shank twisted mouthpiece.




At home, I usually use a short-shank bit with a smooth dog-bone mouthpiece. But I can hop on him with anything; even a halter even though he doesn't have the softest mouth (mostly because he has a short attention span ..... and not so much a hard mouth). And I do like changing his bit up at home every once in a while and riding in something different, just for keeping things fresh.


CLaPorte432: I guess I don't know your horse, but it seems that the bit you do currently ride her in seems very harsh compared to her regular riding bit of simple snaffle. Have you tried running without a noseband? Does she really need it? Have you ever tried running her in just her snaffle? There's no rule that says you can't.

As far as the WonderBit, I don't have a problem with it. My current barrel horse doesn't like it, because we tried it in the past, but I did use it on a couple different younger horses that I trained in the past and seemed to work well for them. It certainly is something you can try and see how she does.

I don't know a whole ton about bits, but I think the best thing is just plain and simple trying it and see how it works. (Noting that it NEVER works to jump to a harsher bit for the sole purpose of fixing a training problem.)
     
    01-14-2012, 03:00 AM
  #17
Banned
Agreed :) ^^^


What I do not understand is the logic behind practicing in one thing and the running/showing in another.
     
    01-17-2012, 04:31 PM
  #18
Foal
I ride in a Classic Equine Carol Goostree Shoulder Holder bit. It has a solid medium port mouthpiece and shanks that swivel. It is a bit that is recommended for horses that drop their shoulder at the barrel or anticipate the barrel. I used to ride my horse in a wonder bit and he hated it. He is a whole different horse with this bit. I know it looks vicious with those huge shanks but I barely use them. This was the only bit I could find with a solid mouth piece, that is all my horse likes. And he drops his shoulder at the barrel.
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    01-18-2012, 12:49 AM
  #19
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by sierrams1123    
Agreed :) What I do not understand is the logic behind practicing in one thing and the running/showing in another.
The main logic behind it is that the ground you run at in competition is not always the same conditions you run at home.

If you are running on hard, fast ground, you may need a bit with a little more rate to control your horse better.

If the ground is muddy and slippery, you may need a light bit that gives your horse more freedom to move as needed.

If it's a large pattern, again, you may need a bit with more rate as you approach each turn.

If a small pattern, you want a free-running bit to encourage your horse to stretch out.



So that's kind of the concept. Of course, this is not switching to a harsher bit for the sole purpose of covering up training problems and "controlling" the horse with it. Rather, you use different bits to help set your horse up for the best success with the conditions you are running under. Especially in rodeo where ground conditions are never as ideal as nicely groomed NBHA's.

And certainly there is no rule that says you have to switch. But I've read a lot of books by the pro's and they all have a trailer-full of bits they are constantly switching to and from based on the running conditions. And I'm guessing they know a thing or two.
     
    01-18-2012, 01:36 AM
  #20
Trained
I certainly am not covering up any bad training by using a stronger bit in competition. If you read my original post, I don't run at home. I do alot of training exercises and trail riding and I don't want to use a competition bit when its completely unnecessary.

I tried running her in a different bit years ago and she about went through the arena gate when she was flying home. She wouldnt turn and slow down. For the safety of my horse, myself and everyone else, I chose a bit that she responded very well in.

As many have said, a bit is only as harsh as your hands. I have very soft hands. Very minimal cues, I ride with my body and only when necessary I will pick up a rein.

I do agree that her bit is a bit too strong for her. She works well in it, but im think she'll work well in anything. Its just the adding speed part that might cause an issue and since I don't run at home, and the show atmosphere being different, its hard to say what'll happen.

Wont know until I try I guess. Good thing show season is about 3 months away.
     

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