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    12-04-2011, 01:05 AM
Your Axis Points

So I got into a little bit of an argument with a girl who is in the same group lesson as me as far as riding to your axis points. I learned this from a Charmayne James clinic, to ride 3-4 feet away and have four axis points around the barrel.

Well, this girl is telling me that that couldn't POSSIBLY make a fast barrel run. Even though that's the way the girls at the NFR ride, and I've won plenty of money on my horses that way.

So I guess my question is, where do you guys ride? How far off, and where do you set your axis points? I know several girls who just try to make it as tight as they can without really thinking about it, but I've had success with riding at least 3 feet off.
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    12-04-2011, 11:49 PM
Green Broke
Okay..please explain..are you talking about the pockets? I wanna know what axis points are. I think I understand but want to make sure
    12-05-2011, 12:57 AM
Yes, in a way. The pockets are the distance between you and the barrel in your turn. When you approach the barrel, it is important to look ahead, and you set up four imaginary "Axis points" around the barrel that you ride to.

I made a fail drawing on paint. It's meant to represent where I would think of as my "Axis points" on the first barrel (Going to the right first) It's not exactly my chosen distance points but close enough.
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    12-05-2011, 01:26 AM
Green Broke
I'll go in to the barrel with a 3ish foot pocket but I try to be tight around the back side of the barrel. I don't hold all of the axis points. If you are wide all the way around the barrel it does slow your time down. On one of my mares I HAVE to run tight around the barrels. If I let her have a big pocket she'll cream the barrel every time.

BUT, Charmayne didn't get herself so many World Championship titles not knowing what she's doing..If the girl still wants to argue with you I would just say something like "Ok, well when you outrun and outride Charmayne James, who rides all of her horses based on the axis points, you let me know."
    12-05-2011, 01:32 AM
Green Broke
Okay,I was right on the axis points,thanks for the drawing!
    12-05-2011, 06:42 AM
Both of mine go in with about a 3ft pocket and, stay about 2 feet off the back then come off as close as possiable. But both horses are short bodied and able to make that sharp of a turn well. Not every horse is going to turn the same so having one set way to go doesn't make sense.
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    12-05-2011, 08:34 PM
I too also keep my horse about 3 feet away when going into the barrel, around the back side I get as close as possible to get around the rest of the way, I try not to keep wide all the way around the barrel as it makes for a slower time because you are trying to cover more ground
    12-07-2011, 11:30 AM
Green Broke
I'm confused about this. I was always just taught the pocket. I come in rather far out, maybe 4-5 feet to keep my mare from over shooting the barrel. I really think it all depends on a horses turning style. My horse drops down and around, while my friends horses seems to do pivots around the barrel, like he plants a foot and just attacks the ground. Heck, he's a 2D horse, so if it works for him, whatever! Lol
    12-07-2011, 12:01 PM
I was taught for a pocket too, but I was also taught that to measure your pocket you ride to the axis points. I know a couple girls who don't learn well thinking about points, but that's how I learned it from Charmayne in her clinic and I've stuck with it since.

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