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post #41 of 49 Old 01-12-2011, 07:00 AM
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Old post..but..you do realize that the world record on a standard pattern is a 16.653 set by Barbara Merill and Proud Red Pepper right?
Im not running rodeos. In my area a standard pattern is a a low 15 second pattern. My barns arena is the same as my NBHA state show pattern. Where a 14.4 won last year. It's a medium sized pattern where alot of men and women have fast horses. Remember some associations don't have a set pattern.
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post #42 of 49 Old 01-12-2011, 07:40 AM
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Im not running rodeos. In my area a standard pattern is a a low 15 second pattern. My barns arena is the same as my NBHA state show pattern. Where a 14.4 won last year. It's a medium sized pattern where alot of men and women have fast horses. Remember some associations don't have a set pattern.
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I understand that, but you have to realize when you state something as the "standard" in barrel racing, folks are going to think of THE standard that is known through the barrel racing world. Folks on here are from all over and YOUR standard where you live isnt THE standard...

... That's why it's called the standard. It's a size pattern that is the same wherever you go. Otherwise, it'd just be another barrel pattern.

It's the MOST definitive way to know where a horse is. 1D-4D is totally relative on the competition. If you don't have tough competition, it's not a realistic way to gauge the quality of horse. We have arenas in our district where a low 14 is winning it... in another, a low 16. But the standard pattern will always be the same and the fastest time on the standard pattern is THE fastest time, not just the fastest time of that show or for that pen.

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dern, should have checked again to make sure

It rubs me the wrong way when people say they run 15s on a standard...theres no way.
This was Nicole's winning run.

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I know it's going to be differant depending ont he arena, but I still would like to hear!

My fastest times were 12.3 (Small arena) and 17.2 (BIG Arena) Both were in the 1D for the show and fast enough to win.
in a big arena 17.3 and ina standard sized arena (first two 90ft apart, and then left n right 105ft to the third barrel) 16 flat. I don't barrel race much, I ride mostly dressage? Yeah figure that one out. My horse was a barrel horse (bred to be hot tempered and run). Although I still thinks it's idiotic to breed a horse to be hot. It was backyard breeding though, what should I expect? Lol. Anyways, occasionally I do barrel racing, opposed to the more calm and elegant equestrian sport dressage(equestrian ballet) so I'm not real experienced in barrel racing. Although I am a country girl :]
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I understand that, but you have to realize when you state something as the "standard" in barrel racing, folks are going to think of THE standard that is known through the barrel racing world. Folks on here are from all over and YOUR standard where you live isnt THE standard...

... That's why it's called the standard. It's a size pattern that is the same wherever you go. Otherwise, it'd just be another barrel pattern.

It's the MOST definitive way to know where a horse is. 1D-4D is totally relative on the competition. If you don't have tough competition, it's not a realistic way to gauge the quality of horse. We have arenas in our district where a low 14 is winning it... in another, a low 16. But the standard pattern will always be the same and the fastest time on the standard pattern is THE fastest time, not just the fastest time of that show or for that pen.
The question wasn't specific. Trust me I know the difference of areas and divisions. THE standard wasn't asked.
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The question wasn't specific. Trust me I know the difference of areas and divisions. THE standard wasn't asked.
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No, the OP didnt ask what time you've run on the standard, but you stated what you ran on the standard. Which, in fact, wasnt the standard barrel pattern.

No reason to get defensive. Not everyone knows that there is even a standard or are aware of the 4D or 5D break up. So by getting your terms wrong, can be confusing to some.
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I understand that, but you have to realize when you state something as the "standard" in barrel racing, folks are going to think of THE standard that is known through the barrel racing world. Folks on here are from all over and YOUR standard where you live isnt THE standard...

... That's why it's called the standard. It's a size pattern that is the same wherever you go. Otherwise, it'd just be another barrel pattern.

It's the MOST definitive way to know where a horse is. 1D-4D is totally relative on the competition. If you don't have tough competition, it's not a realistic way to gauge the quality of horse. We have arenas in our district where a low 14 is winning it... in another, a low 16. But the standard pattern will always be the same and the fastest time on the standard pattern is THE fastest time, not just the fastest time of that show or for that pen.
Exactly.Thankyou for this post.
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This was Nicole's winning run.

YouTube - Nicole Aichele World Record Run
Wow...Im a goon...Ive seen this run LOL.
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... you have to realize when you state something as the "standard" in barrel racing, folks are going to think of THE standard that is known through the barrel racing world.
Took the words right out of my mouth.

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Barrelracer86: Im not running rodeos. In my area a standard pattern is a a low 15 second pattern. My barns arena is the same as my NBHA state show pattern. Where a 14.4 won last year. It's a medium sized pattern where alot of men and women have fast horses. Remember some associations don't have a set pattern.
You can't call something a "standard pattern" if it is not THE standard WPRA pattern that we all are aware of in the barrel racing world. As buckoff said, when you say "standard pattern" it is unanimously associated by any knowledgeable barrel racer with the WPRA pattern. It's just universal barrel terminology.

In your response, it would have been more correct to say something like "in my area the usual or average patter is a low 15 second pattern" rather than using the word "standard". (For the exact reason that we all keep harping on.) And we are certainly not saying that you or the people in your area do not have fast times. I am sure it is very tough competition like anywhere else ... but it is not run on the standard pattern.

If not for us, at least try to use the correct terminology out of respect for those who HAVE accomplished great things on the WPRA-designated standard pattern such as Nicole Aichele.

And what a video! It gave me the goosebumps! I can only hope to ride a fast horse like that someday. Thanks for posting that Buckoff.

And I just want to add kudos to Nicole for wearing a helmet! Yay!!!!

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in a big arena 17.3 and ina standard sized arena (first two 90ft apart, and then left n right 105ft to the third barrel) 16 flat. I don't barrel race much, I ride mostly dressage? Yeah figure that one out. My horse was a barrel horse (bred to be hot tempered and run). Although I still thinks it's idiotic to breed a horse to be hot. It was backyard breeding though, what should I expect? Lol. Anyways, occasionally I do barrel racing, opposed to the more calm and elegant equestrian sport dressage(equestrian ballet) so I'm not real experienced in barrel racing. Although I am a country girl :]

As stated before, the record for a standard arena is 16.643
If you're going to lie, lie convincingly please. :]

My fastest time in a small arena is around 15 seconds. I don't remember exactly. It pretty small. In a standard arena we Diamond and I got a 17.1 time. That was last summer, we hope to do even better in the summer of 2010!!!!!! Lol unlikely though :P
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