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    02-05-2012, 10:57 AM
  #1
Weanling
Anyone really good with finding trucks?

SO I have been saving for a while now, and hopefully in March will be buying myself a truck to haul to horse shows with! Nothing too big, right now the trailer I'm borrowing is a 2 horse slant, but I would want to trailer two horses. I figured a decent half ton could get the job done.

Unfortunately I am useless with cars/trucks. I am going to be getting some advice in person too (not from the people selling the car ) BUT I thought I might be able to get some truck advice on here too.

I'm not picky, my only wish's (optional in other words) are that it doesn't have terrible gas mileage (I want to stay around 15 mpg in the city preferably), not covered in rust, extended cab (for hauling the PEOPLE to the show ) and not going to be breaking down every couple thousand miles. Oh and my MAX price is $5,000 (cheap-o I know)

I've been looking at this truck and really like it, but what do you think? Do you think I should be worried about the replaced transmition?
http://lincoln.craigslist.org/cto/2776809950.html
     
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    02-06-2012, 03:32 PM
  #2
Weanling
First off, good luck on finding a truck that gets 15mpg in town, hauling a trailer with horses. You might be able to find one like that but then you're lookin at the 2000 year and newer.

I would probably look at getting something with less then 150k miles, if you're looking for a gas engine. I know there's alot of people on here who like dodge, but I don't. Personally I would look for a ford (even though I'm a chevy girl) probably in the late 90's era. Keep your eye on CL, and DO NOT get a 6.0 Liter diesel.
     
    02-06-2012, 03:38 PM
  #3
Weanling
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Originally Posted by draftgrl    
First off, good luck on finding a truck that gets 15mpg in town, hauling a trailer with horses. You might be able to find one like that but then you're lookin at the 2000 year and newer.

I would probably look at getting something with less then 150k miles, if you're looking for a gas engine. I know there's alot of people on here who like dodge, but I don't. Personally I would look for a ford (even though I'm a chevy girl) probably in the late 90's era. Keep your eye on CL, and DO NOT get a 6.0 Liter diesel.
Oh, I know I won't be able to get 15 MPG hauling horses, haha! I'm not too delusional :) I meant without horses, just driving around town (as a back up for my little car right now).

I will be staying away from diesel! What makes you say Ford though? Right now half the people I know are pulling me towards Ford, and the rest say Chevy haha.
     
    02-06-2012, 04:59 PM
  #4
Weanling
Honestly, I don't really know lol. The boyfriend has one, and has done well pulling the trailer, granted it's newer then the chevy's I've used to pull.

But chevy/gmc would do ya just fine as well.
     
    02-07-2012, 11:22 AM
  #5
Weanling
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Originally Posted by draftgrl    
Honestly, I don't really know lol. The boyfriend has one, and has done well pulling the trailer, granted it's newer then the chevy's I've used to pull.

But chevy/gmc would do ya just fine as well.
I just realized that last one sold already, oops! What do you think of this one:

2001 Ford F-150

Vs.

1997 Ford F-150
(which I like the price tag a little better :) )

Then there's this one... which claims to get 21 MPG in the city, is this possible??
1997 Ford F150 Limited Edition

Here's the best Chevy I've found in my area, but I'm feeling a little iffy on it.

96 Chevy K1500 Club Cab

If I buy from an owner what are some things I should watch out for?
     
    02-07-2012, 11:43 AM
  #6
Showing
I like the 2001 but with a 4X4 you're adding additional weight onto the truck, which means the gas mileage will suffer. You might get 15 mpg with a 4X4, but unless you really and truly need that option, there's no reason to pay for the extra weight.

I had the choice of a 2009 F150 for $17,000 with 63,000 miles and a 4X4, or a 2008 F150 for $15,000 with 32,000 miles and a 4X2. Both were Triton V8 4.6L engines. I took the second option, because living here in southern VA I don't really need a 4X4.

As far as that 1997 getting 21 mpg in the city and 27 mpg on the highway? Very iffy. If you think those claims might be bogus, you can check the Ford Truck forums for answers.

Don't just look at the price tags, look at the engine/liter sizes and mileage. You also have to remember that if you're buying from an individual and not a business, you have no recourse if the vehicle has damage and the previous owner didn't tell you about it. Body damage can be fixed, but structural damage such as a bent frame will play hell on your tires and gas mileage.

Also, depending on the size of the trailer you plan to haul, a 4.6L may not be big enough. Not all V8s are created equal, and if you have a big trailer you'll need a bigger liter size.
     
    02-07-2012, 11:55 AM
  #7
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
I like the 2001, but with a 4X4 you're adding additional weight onto the truck, which means the gas mileage will suffer. You might get 15 mpg with a 4X4, but unless you really and truly need that option, there's no reason to pay for the extra weight.

I had the choice of a 2009 F150 for $17,000 with 63,000 miles and a 4X4, or a 2008 F150 for $15,000 with 32,000 miles and a 4X2. Both were Triton V8 4.6L engines. I took the second option, because living here in southern VA I don't really need a 4X4.

As far as that 1997 getting 21 mpg in the city and 27 mpg on the highway? Very iffy. If you think those claims might be bogus, you can check the Ford Truck forums for answers.

Don't just look at the price tags, look at the engine/liter sizes and mileage. You also have to remember that if you're buying from an individual and not a business, you have no recourse if the vehicle has damage and the previous owner didn't tell you about it. Body damage can be fixed, but structural damage such as a bent frame will play hell on your tires and gas mileage.

Also, depending on the size of the trailer you plan to haul, a 4.6L may not be big enough. Not all V8s are equal, and if you have a big trailer you'll need a bigger liter size.
Good point about 4x4! I was always told it's better to haul a horse trailer with a 4x4, but there are only a few instances I could think of in my area where it would be helpful (during the muddy seasons). We normally do have a good amount of snow in the winter, 4x4's are better to have in the snow right? (My job has no snow days, I had to drive to work in a snowstorm Saturday, even though 90% of everyone who was on the roads was/got stuck)

I plan on having a mechanic look over the car before I would buy it if from an owner (like a vet check ) but I assume there are things he could miss, and it could still be risky.

What would you be looking for engine wise if you were just looking to haul a 2 horse trailer? I think all together (trailer, horses, tack) is about 5,000 lbs. Last season my friend hauled the trailer (with two horses) in an SUV which could roughly pull 6,000 (can't remember engine specifics). I know SUV's aren't the best option, but I'm hoping it won't be too much on a 4.6 L. I guess I'll have to look up the specifics, but how much do you think a 4.6 L could pull? I know someone with a four horse trailer (bumper pull, stock) that I might like to borrow every once and a while (most likely with only 3 horses)
     
    02-07-2012, 12:07 PM
  #8
Showing
The 4.6L can haul a 5,000 lb two horse, but I'd be leery of hauling anything bigger. The smallest I'd want for a 4 horse would be a 5.2L, and only because it's a stock trailer. Anything heavier, and you'd need to go higher.

You have to remember that you're not hauling empty; you have the weight of the horses as well as tack, other people, and miscellaneous stuff. That has to factor in with the gross vehicle towing capacity.

When in doubt, bigger is always better. For a 4 horse, I'd probably go with an F250 with a 5.4L or higher.

Remember, it's not just hauling capability you need to worry about, but your stopping power. If your truck is undermuscled for the job, you'll find out in a very scary way when you try to stop it while hauling fully loaded.

You CAN haul with a smaller liter size but you'll be putting undue strain on your transmission, and replacing a tranny is very expensive. Get the right truck for the job.
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    02-07-2012, 12:14 PM
  #9
Weanling
I would probably stay away from the 97, because being used for a construction company I'm sure it has had the S*&% beaten out of it, between hauling, snow removal, and who knows what else. Either the 01 ford or the 96 chev would be fine.

Find out why they are selling the Ford, seems a bit cheap for an 01. Sounds like the upkeep has been done on the chevy, rust along the rocker panels is completly normal for a chevy, just check the frame (the ford's too) for rust.

If an owner says that something has been repaired, get recepits, if they do not provide them, or say they did it themself then whether or not it has been done without receipts from a shop, I think it has not been done. That way there's no way they can lie to you about something. Unless of course you know the person, or someone you trust does.

It does worry me a bit as to why the 2001 ford is only 4k but check it out, maybe they just need quick cash. When you go to test drive, let them know that you intend to bring it to a shop to have it looked over before you purchase it, if they have a problem with this, walk away.
     
    02-07-2012, 12:18 PM
  #10
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
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Remember, it's not just hauling capability you need to worry about, but your stopping power. If your truck is undermuscled for the job, you'll find out in a very scary way when you try to stop it while hauling fully loaded.
YES, yes and yes!!! Alot of people forget about the stopping! Make sure your truck can handle what you want it to do.
     

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