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    03-21-2012, 02:29 PM
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Hubba hubba, what a beast! I'd have cried, too.
     
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    03-24-2012, 03:31 PM
  #52
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Originally Posted by Poco1220    
If you're lookin for a diesel then I agree that chances are you don't want a ford. The only exception is the 6.4 but they're hard to find as people have no reason to get rid of them.

If you want gas then I'm a huge Ford fan. Our Chevy did great too and finally died at just over 200,000 miles but it never pulled as easily as I'd have liked.
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Ford's new 6.7L PowerStroke (code-named Scorpion) was developed in-house instead of sourced from Navistar and is apparently quite the improvement, according to what I've read at The Diesel Stop forum.

There are some people there who claim there's a problem with the fuel pumps on those trucks, but the failure rate is something like 6 per 100,000 ... that's acceptable. Guess the complainers were the 6 in question.
     
    03-28-2012, 10:55 PM
  #53
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Originally Posted by Faustinblack    
My family has always had fords, but since this is going to be the first vehicle I buy myself I want the best of what I can afford (which isn't much). *sigh* anyways, I want a truck that can handle a two horse bumper pull side-by-side, but I don't want a big truck. I just want ya'lls opinions, and you don't have to be limited to ford or dodge. Thanks :)

For what it is worth, I'm a fan of the late 90's F250 trucks, with the 7.3 diesel. If you go newer, stay away from the 03-04 Ford 6.0 diesel. I've owned 2 of those, both trucks had an amazing amount of repair work, over $6k per truck.
     
    03-28-2012, 11:05 PM
  #54
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Originally Posted by Adam    
For what it is worth, I'm a fan of the late 90's F250 trucks, with the 7.3 diesel. If you go newer, stay away from the 03-04 Ford 6.0 diesel. I've owned 2 of those, both trucks had an amazing amount of repair work, over $6k per truck.
i must have got lucky with the one I own and the few we have at work. I've heard and seen so many disasters with the 6.0's. But all the ones I've been around have been great. Just a little preventative maintenance for the main issues they have and they've worked great for me.

I've know a few people that traded theyre 6.0's in on the 6.4s when they came out and wanted their 6.0's back. But I have no experience with the 6.4s. Heard as many bad things as good things, so I don't know. Im waiting to see how the 6.7s strokers turn out, they seem to be stout. Time will tell.
     
    03-30-2012, 04:01 PM
  #55
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Only thing I can say about The 6.0 is its one heck of a power plant. If your letting the dealer work on your trucks your tossing your money right down the drain. I can see where you can spend thousands in repair cost. Last month I bought a new alternator for are 03 F350. Dealer wanted 2 and a half hours labor to put it on $90 hr. I bought the belt tension tool for $29 and it took me 10 minutes to do the job at home. Yesterday we replaced the ICP sensor. Again dealer wanted $190 for the part. And a little over 500 to install it. I bought part online OEM for $59 And put it in my self took half a days work , And a couple cracked knuckles but the truck runs like new. Best bet is to just learn to fix it your self.
     
    03-30-2012, 04:09 PM
  #56
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I wouldn't spend the money on a diesel and all that comes with it to pull a two horse trailer. A dodge or ford 1/2 ton will work fine. You have the option of a Hemi v-8 in the dodge and that's an excellent engine. I have a 3/4 ton with the Hemi and I can pull anything I want with it and it costs less than any diesel.
     
    03-30-2012, 05:06 PM
  #57
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I know when we use the half ton gasser to pull the trailer I feal every bump in the road. With the 1 ton you offten forget the trailer is back there.
     
    03-30-2012, 05:22 PM
  #58
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Originally Posted by Debbiesgypsy    
Only thing I can say about The 6.0 is its one heck of a power plant. If your letting the dealer work on your trucks your tossing your money right down the drain. I can see where you can spend thousands in repair cost. Last month I bought a new alternator for are 03 F350. Dealer wanted 2 and a half hours labor to put it on $90 hr. I bought the belt tension tool for $29 and it took me 10 minutes to do the job at home. Yesterday we replaced the ICP sensor. Again dealer wanted $190 for the part. And a little over 500 to install it. I bought part online OEM for $59 And put it in my self took half a days work , And a couple cracked knuckles but the truck runs like new. Best bet is to just learn to fix it your self.
i agree. Not just the money, but ford has a lot to do with the problems with the 6.0 in the first place. The vt 365 in the international box trucks and other medium duty trucks has the opposite reputation the 6.0 powerstroke does

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Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
I wouldn't spend the money on a diesel and all that comes with it to pull a two horse trailer. A dodge or ford 1/2 ton will work fine. You have the option of a Hemi v-8 in the dodge and that's an excellent engine. I have a 3/4 ton with the Hemi and I can pull anything I want with it and it costs less than any diesel.
i had a gas 3/4 ton and i'd take the diesel any day. Its all preference, theres still a lot I like about the gas better than the diesel, but my gasser was no where near cheaper than my diesel. I LOVED the truck, but was doin good to get 14mpg on a good day goin downhill with a tailwind. Barely got 11 with any kind of load. My diesel gets around 20mpg with 35" tires. I've got it tuned tho with a few other performance upgrades, but I've made all that money back with the fuel mileage.

Parts are more expensive for the diesel, but they take more abuse. The diesels just don't have to work near as hard as the gas trucks when towing
     
    03-30-2012, 05:37 PM
  #59
Trained
You're right the diesel will pull better but either one will pull a two horse trailer easily and with the price of fuel 50 cents different the gas is probably costing the same as the diesel. They also cost half as much to buy.
     
    03-30-2012, 05:51 PM
  #60
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Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
You're right the diesel will pull better but either one will pull a two horse trailer easily and with the price of fuel 50 cents different the gas is probably costing the same as the diesel. They also cost half as much to buy.
yea I hear ya. When you haul consistantly, its worth it, but if not, its not neccessary to have a diesel. So many people these days think they need a diesel when they really don't.
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