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tell me about cutting ?

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#1 ·
my trainer thinks denny will do better as a cutting horse then an endurance horse so she wants me to try him out in this new discpline.

so besides the obvisous of having the cows numbered and not numbered and having a judge call the number and then cutting that cow from the herd and keeping them seperated and forcing them to a different fence (if im not mistaken) then continuing down the line of numbered cows until all number cows are gone without going out of order. all while working with a partner who blocks the gate. and whoever has the better angle takes the next cow. so you may rotate or not every 1 or few cows.

what else does cutting entail?? i have never done it before and my trainer wants to start this training this weekend... :shock:
 
#4 ·
What you described as Nicole said is sorting or possibly penning. Both are actually timed events involving cattle. Cutting is one horse one rider and is judged.

Ranch sorting, featuring one of our regular posters on here:
Buckeye Stables
Team penning at Calgary Stampede last year, just for kicks featuring some of my team mates and friends:

And cutting:
 
#8 ·
Cutting you are judged on you cut of the cow. Your control of the cow with horse hand down (not using the reins). On how your horse works the cow getting it to turn. How your horse turns the cow. You can cut 2-3 cows in 2 min 30 sec.
That is the very short version. The rules book is huge.
 
#6 ·
In penning and sorting the judges are not actually judging the horses and rider. They are there to call roughing (too much force used on the cattle), watching the line for trash or incorrectly numbered cattle crossing etc.
In cutting, you would have to talk to some of the cutters on here. Send Rob a message as he trains and shows in cutting as well as the sorting and penning.
 
#11 ·
What you described is sorting. Penning actually has 3 riders and 30 cows.
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#14 ·
What you described is sorting. Penning actually has 3 riders and 30 cows.
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Sorting has 2 riders and anywhere form 10-12 cows #0-9 with a few in there that dont have numbers and have to stay on that side they are on. They are in a area that looks like 2 round pens put to gether with a open area between them. You have to take the cows in the other pen in order.
 
#18 ·
I was going to write a thread about cutting then I saw this one! I've always liked cutting I have no idea how it is done, I would fall off and I will probably never do it but I still like it!

So dumb question.. I know ALL horse's having training and video's I watch are usually world champions.. But at that level ( heres the dumb one ) do the horses do everything?? I see the riders go into the cows bring one out exc. but once the cow is head on with the horse it just looks like the horse knows his job and does it.

I sound like every person in the world who says " you just sit on the horse and they do the work"
 
#19 ·
So dumb question.. I know ALL horse's having training and video's I watch are usually world champions.. But at that level ( heres the dumb one ) do the horses do everything?? I see the riders go into the cows bring one out exc. but once the cow is head on with the horse it just looks like the horse knows his job and does it.

I sound like every person in the world who says " you just sit on the horse and they do the work"
Even in the lower classes you put your hand down. But most of the time those horse has had alot of training.
And when you hear you just sit and let the horse work that is BS. You have to use you legs, and you have to sit the stops. And much more.
 
#23 ·
Yeah, cutting has a ton of little things you are judged on..check out the NCHA Handbook, should be on their website...You get points (or docked points) for things such as not lifting your reins once you have one cow cut, how well you stay in line with that cow, quitting the cow at the right time, how well you cut out of the herd, etc....It takes a loooong time to creat a finished cutting horse. This isn't a sport you can start a horse in and expect instant results...it takes roughly 3-5 years to create a "finished" cutting horse, one that you can expect to perform well in shows without aiding him with your reins...I don't really know anything about penning or sorting, but it seems like these sports may be slightly easier to introduce a new horse to as far as competitions involving cattle...I'm by no means an expert though!
 
#24 ·
And to go off of what Nicole said, if you did want to try cutting and start out two handed, you would have to start at the club level, in a non-NCHA affiliated club. Our club has a 450 and 550 level class that you are allowed to show 2 handed...it's a great way for beginner riders and horses to get into it.
 
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