Turn Back Help
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Riding Horses > Western Riding > Cutting and Team Penning

Turn Back Help

This is a discussion on Turn Back Help within the Cutting and Team Penning forums, part of the Western Riding category
  • Turning back cutting horses
  • Turn back cutting horse

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
    02-13-2013, 10:46 AM
  #1
Weanling
Turn Back Help

I have watched cutting but never participated in it before. I was just asked to come out and be turn back help for a guy I work with while they practice on the weekends. Anything I should know before heading out there? I would really like to do it and perhaps get some education on cutting while Im there. I realize that the cutting horse does the work and your job is to hold on but just wondering what I should be most concerned with doing turn back help.
     
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
    02-13-2013, 02:30 PM
  #2
Super Moderator
Good for you. It is a great way to learn how to handle cattle. Are you turning back in a round pen for horses in training or for a 'finished horse' working out of a herd in a square pen like a show pen? You handle each one a lot differently.

Generally, If a cutter is having trouble and not in a good position compared to where the cow is, you 'back off' and give the rider room to fix the problem. You never want to run a cow over or past the rider.

You need to ask the trainer how much pressure he wants you to put on a cow. Ask him to give you some signal (like nodding his head) when he wants you to move in and 'bump' a cow that is standing still. It will be best to start out not trying to do too much and 'over-work' the situation.

Good luck with it. It is a great way to get a handle on a horse and learn how to work cattle at the same time.
     
    02-13-2013, 03:06 PM
  #3
Weanling
It will be basically a full sized arena as this is basically his prep for shows. From what I gleaned the horse we are working with is basically finished and requires essentially no help once the cow is selected.

Im looking quite forward to learning this. I think cutting is fascinating. I fell like Im getting to learn a bit of a lot of things right now. I am learning to rope currently where I ride normally and now I can learn a bit about cutting as well.

Its fun times for sure.
     
    02-19-2013, 03:04 PM
  #4
Weanling
You also will want to make sure you pay attention when the horse and rider are in the process of cutting one cow out of the herd. Your job will be to help push the other cows back towards the herd at the back of the pen, so that the rider can get to work on cutting their one cow. You don't want there to be two or three straggler cows hanging out in the way of the cutter. Watch a few cutting viedoes on youtube and pay attention to the turnback riders. Pay attention to how much pressure they put on the cows to get them to move, and how they push on the "straggler" cows to get them to go back to the herd and get out of the way of the horse and rider.
     
    02-19-2013, 03:12 PM
  #5
Weanling
Well I had myf irst day doing it on saturday and after some quick pointers on weather to press or hang back they felt I was doing pretty good.

The mare they had me on has some good cow sense so most of my job was pretty straight forward and the mare helped my inexperience in it a lot.
     
    02-19-2013, 03:14 PM
  #6
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by cowgirlnay    
You also will want to make sure you pay attention when the horse and rider are in the process of cutting one cow out of the herd. Your job will be to help push the other cows back towards the herd at the back of the pen, so that the rider can get to work on cutting their one cow. You don't want there to be two or three straggler cows hanging out in the way of the cutter. Watch a few cutting viedoes on youtube and pay attention to the turnback riders. Pay attention to how much pressure they put on the cows to get them to move, and how they push on the "straggler" cows to get them to go back to the herd and get out of the way of the horse and rider.
I went out with another turn back rider the first few times to get the feel of it. Or just being in the arena on your horse can help when starting, since you learn so much more being out there instead of just watching from the sidelines. Have fun!
     

Quick Reply
Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Won't turn right? SGM Horse Training 8 06-22-2012 11:37 PM
Why won't she turn? SammyAnn Western Riding 7 05-09-2012 10:03 AM
Male riders, Turn off? or Turn on? teafortwo Horse Talk 76 06-02-2011 03:33 AM
Half Turn on the Haunches, and Half turn on the forehand. Mickey4793 English Riding 7 02-01-2011 02:20 AM
Dilemma: when to turn back on a trail ride... Wallaby Horse Training 6 12-22-2009 12:45 PM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0