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When they get away--whose fault?

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    10-26-2011, 09:42 AM
  #11
rob
Weanling
Thats not ranch sorting,thats your true friends together and a chance to get your senses back together.haha
     
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    10-26-2011, 04:31 PM
  #12
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by Stillstandin    
Like Rob stated, you should never allow your horse to swing sideways or turn backwards while being in the hole (gate). If you are sideways, not facing the cattle, it is very easy for trash (strays) to slip past your horse's hip through the opening. You also have to be in position where your horse can freely move from side to side and foward towards the cattle.
#1 rule in working cattle - the cattle don't read the game book.

I have successfully blocked at the hole with my horse sideways. I shoulder into the trash and turn it to take it with me when I head for the next number.

Communication is critical when team sorting. The cutter is typically watching the critter s/he is cutting. The team members on the line or in the hole have to talk if they have trash hitting too hard.

A good horse for working cattle knows where it's hind quarters are. Very effective for sweeping at the hole and effortless to turn a run away.
     
    10-26-2011, 05:31 PM
  #13
Foal
No the cattle don't read the "rules" that is why as a rider you need to set yourself up to be able to see and anticipate what those cattle are going to do. I too have stopped cattle in the hole successfully with my horse sideways. I admit, though, that I ride horses that considered to be top cow horses. I also have over 30 years of working cattle on horseback under my belt. I assume that you are similar in experience and horse power to myself.
But the OP is a beginner and I am assuming the horse is also new to sorting. Based on that and also on everything that I have been taught from some top clinicians, I do advocate the "do not ever" let your horse go sideways in the hole. By doing so your horse's eyes are no longer on the cattle, decreasing your chances of stopping trash. As well when the horse is sideways it requires more time to swing back into position to make a move on cattle over a quick move to the left or right or even towards the cattle coming at them. By using the hip to stop trash, it can cause your horse to become even further out of position increasing the chances of another animal slipping past you and your horse.
I have also learned both from clinics and experience, tunnel vision when playing any position can cost your team a run. Even when you are pulling you need to be aware of the rest of the herd and where they are going, not just the cow that you are trying to pull.
You are correct mls, communication is the key to a successful run.
     
    10-26-2011, 08:34 PM
  #14
rob
Weanling
Your right stillstandin.i train and show sorting horses on a professional level.and if the horse or rider don't see a cow coming up his hip he wont stop it very often.i face the herd so my horse and I know whats coming and from what direction
     

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