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    01-16-2012, 07:03 PM
  #11
Foal
For english saddles, Duett saddles are GREAT
     
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    01-16-2012, 09:08 PM
  #12
Foal
what about treeless?

Anyone have any thoughts on the treeless saddles? I rode bareback most my life, but can't afford a small fortune for a saddle. Has anyone ever had any luck with one of the more affordable brands?
     
    01-16-2012, 10:57 PM
  #13
Foal
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Originally Posted by mossyrainbows    
Anyone have any thoughts on the treeless saddles? I rode bareback most my life, but can't afford a small fortune for a saddle. Has anyone ever had any luck with one of the more affordable brands?
Pretty sure it's wintec tht makes a treeless western saddle. I had it for my belgian gelding, worked great and was super comfy
     
    01-16-2012, 10:59 PM
  #14
Foal
Wintec Comfort Ride Synthetic Saddle - Statelinetack.com
     
    01-26-2012, 10:45 AM
  #15
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by mossyrainbows    
Anyone have any thoughts on the treeless saddles? I rode bareback most my life, but can't afford a small fortune for a saddle. Has anyone ever had any luck with one of the more affordable brands?
I use a treeless as a "first" saddle, because it's the correct size for each of my horses (just one saddle does them all as their backs change). It works for getting them use to being saddled, mounted and having my weight on them. I'll do short time frame early training with them using the treeless. I'll ride 30 min to an hour.
I don't use it for my serious, long time frame riding. They don't displace weight like a good, well fitting tree and I don't feel they keep the weight off the center back like a saddle should. Basically they're beefed up bareback pads.

But that's just me and my opinion
     
    01-26-2012, 10:48 PM
  #16
Foal
Go to www.balanceinternational.com. Their saddles are designed to be extra wide no matter what breed they are for. The standard size is an 8x wide...that is 8 times wider than a regular wide saddle. I have one for my Percheron cross mare and my Irish Sport Horse. They are fabulous and the people in the office are super helpful and all active riders.
     
    01-28-2012, 10:27 AM
  #17
Yearling
Looked at my western and I need to get my reading glasses because the marking is so tiny!
     
    01-30-2012, 07:31 PM
  #18
Trained
What is the difference between a treeless saddle vs one with a tree
And are they the same comfort
     
    02-01-2012, 01:58 PM
  #19
Foal
draft saddle

I trail ride a 17.2 Belgian and I have 2 saddles the first one I bought was a Big Horn western saddle , it was hard to keep it from slipping so I searched the internet and found a saddle maker in Australia , James saddlery , that makes saddles for all horses . It has a horn , like a western saddle and fits like a glove , it's a cross between a western saddle and an aussie saddle , you can ride for 6 hours and not walk funny when you get off . It was priced about the same as any good saddle too . Our money is worth more then theirs. Marlin8
     
    02-01-2012, 03:28 PM
  #20
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Country Woman    
what is the difference between a treeless saddle vs one with a tree
And are they the same comfort
A saddle that has a tree (or frame if you use a Trooper or the old German Army saddles) will displace the weight of the rider across the area that tree makes contact with the horse back (and shoulders). Much like the frame of a back pack displaces the weight of the pack and it's contents so that it feels light and easier to carry. The tree help spread the weight out so that it's easier on the horse's back. Some of the endurance saddles and Troopers tend to cover the largest surface area so they would displace the most. Some Plantation styles and Western saddles are next. Other Plantation styles and the various "English" saddles have the less then the others. Although "English" is not a good term, because there are different "English" saddles for different disciplines of riding and some types will displace more than others.

Treeless has nothing that keeps the saddle actually off the spine and it displaces about as much as a pad. They'll have a heavier seat and made of more rigid material, but basically it's a bareback pad on steroids .

I use a treeless saddle as a starter for getting the horse use to a saddle and I'll ride them for maybe 1/2 hour just to do some light training. But any serious riding I do will be with a tree or frame to protect the horse's back.

The advantage of treeless is that one size can work on several different size backs, so you don't have to get a perfect fit like a tree. My filly and mare will never be able to share the same saddle, because their withers are different and they're shapes are not the same. But I can use the treeless saddle I started my mare with on my filly when I get ready to start training her to take the saddle.

Both are useful for me. The amount of riding you do will help determine if treeless is good for you. If you just ride a short enough time each day a treeless might not matter. If you spend much time riding and like to ride long trails and spend hours riding then you'll probably need to get a saddle with a properly fitting tree.
     

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