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post #1 of 9 Old 06-04-2009, 12:32 PM Thread Starter
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Question A couple questions for full-draft owners

What does hay cost per month for your draft and what are do you live in? I've read they eat twice as much as an average horse... is this true in your case?

Do you have trouble finding a farrier that will work on a draft?

What brand saddle do you use?

Can you recommend a very mild draft bit for training?

If you have a trailer, what kind do you have?
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post #2 of 9 Old 06-04-2009, 01:01 PM
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We usually give ours 3-4 flakes of hay in the am. 3 at noon and 4 at PM. Its a lot of hay. Hay here is like $4 a bale.

Farriers can be a trouble to find. It all depends on the farrier and if they can handle the feet. Our farrier is a great guy!

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I don't know about feed as ours are both in pastures with other horses and they all have free access to large bales of hay but that is what I have heard. As for finding farriers, YES I have a problem finding one. My Dad used to do all of our farrier work but he is getting older and it is really hard on him now. I have visited with several others and none of them work on Drafts. So for right now, I have my brother working on their feet. I don't currently have a draft saddle but I have seen some pix of saddles made by a poster here; SouthernTrailsGA and they look to be very high quality at a decent price. As for a bit, just a simple snaffle in the appropriate size would probably be best. :) Don't have a trailer to fit. Have to have the vet make house calls. LOL. Have you posted pix of your girl yet or have you picked her up yet? When you do, I want pix!!!

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Thanks! I haven't gotten her yet. I'm picking her up on August 5th... I'm dying over here waiting. Lol It's really good, though, because that just gives me more time to prepare.
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. Have you posted pix of your girl yet or have you picked her up yet? When you do, I want pix!!!
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My guy isn't full draft, he's about 3/4 but he's pretty much the size of a full draft, 1800 lbs, about 17.3 or so.

He really doesn't require much more in the way of calories than my other two light horses but he does put away a lot of grass hay, about 6-7 flakes a day. Your horse needs about 2% of their body weight in roughage daily. He gets about 4 cups of Purina Strategy split in two feedings also, plus double the normal vitamin/mineral supplement. Seems he's ALWAYS eating!

I use a regular snaffle and so far that's been all we've needed, you just have to measure her mouth to get the right width.

Do you ride western or English? I use an extra wide Thornhill Berlin all-purpose English saddle and love it.

Luckily, I haven't had any issues finding a farrier. Some have charged me more for him. I asked my farrier why some farriers won't work on drafts and he said they take a greater toll on the body and can really hurt you when they might slam down a hoof. Start asking around and when you get your girl, work hard with her so she is well-behaved. That goes a long way :)

I have a 3 horse slant-load, standard size. It's OK height-wise, the length is the issue. When I haul Cody, I can only haul one other horse because he takes up the last 2 stalls. Several people I know with drafts use a regular stock trailer which gives you the length you need without the restraint of a divider.

I've always used a rope halter with Cody and that gave me more control when working on the ground.

Goodluck to you!

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What does hay cost per month for your draft and what are do you live in? I've read they eat twice as much as an average horse... is this true in your case?

They do NOT eat more than a draft horse unless they are pullers that need the extra calories/energy. My boy eats 3 flakes a day 2x a day - same as the TB's in our barn.

Do you have trouble finding a farrier that will work on a draft? Yep, complete and utter nightmare. I called every number in the phone book and then I got desperate and offered to pay mileage. Finally our barn farrier took mercy on me and ended up really enjoying working with Solon. I bought him the HoofJack with the draft horse cradle and larger nippers/rasps. Farriers will be the most difficult part of full draft ownership, but when you find one, it's great!

What brand saddle do you use? when I use a saddle I use an all purpose English saddle with a 10" gullet. You can find them on eBay. I'll be getting a western saddle off of eBay from Frontier Equestrians. They have good quality, low cost draft saddles (all styles aussie, english, dressage, western).

Can you recommend a very mild draft bit for training? When I'm not using Dr. Cook's Bitless Bridle I use a low-port 6" Kimberwicke. It's a really nice bit for the big guys.

If you have a trailer, what kind do you have?
Solon eventually outgrew the horse trailer. I thought I had a pretty tall trailer but he kept growing. So depending on what age of horse you have be careful with what you buy!!! Solon had his last growth spurt after he turned 7.


ETA: be careful of the snaffle bits. They are not always the best ones for the big guys. I spoke with several draft horse teams when I first got Solon and none of them recommended using one. So that's how I got to use the low port Kimberwicke. It's been a dream but mostly I use bitless.

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What does hay cost per month for your draft and what are do you live in? I've read they eat twice as much as an average horse... is this true in your case?
I board my horse, which is $300 a month, but I estimate that my horse's feed would be between $100 and $150 a month. And yes, she eats about twice as much hay as other horses, but gets the same amount of grain.

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Do you have trouble finding a farrier that will work on a draft?
My friend is a farrier and trims her for me.

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What brand saddle do you use?
I'm not sure what brand it is, but it's a warmblood saddle.

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Can you recommend a very mild draft bit for training?
I'd recommend starting in a snaffle, but every horse is diffferent. Some actually prefer curb bits. As for the mouthpiece, you'll probably just have to try out different kinds and see what works best for your horse.
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If you have a trailer, what kind do you have?
Thanks =)
A late 80's model 3 horse slant load that she turns into a 2 horse.
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I have 2 full Belgains. One is 16.2 hds the other is 18.2 hds.
During the winter when there is no grass, 1 roll of hay lasts about 2 weeks. Now that it's summer and I have grass, I still have a hay roll so that they will come off the grass a little and give it a break. I dont' stall, they do better with 24/7 turn out, they are to big to be cooped up. I do at night lock them in the smaller pasture( 1/2 acre) with the hay, so the grass can have a small break.

As far as feed, my old guy eats like a light breed. But he don't do anything he's retired. My young guy on the other hand takes a little more, but I don' think you can say its double. NO SWEET FEED. It makes mine hot. I made the mistake one time and got the wrong feed, and said oh well I'll just give them this. One week of sweet feed and they were like 6 year olds on a case of Mountain Dew. Lets face it, a 2000 pound booger hunting freak is not much fun, so no more sweet feed at my house.

I feed Safe and Sound, its low starch and no molasses, I also feed beet pulp without molasses. My feed store is going to start carrying a new draft blend made just for the draft. Can't wait to see what its got in it.

Just if you have a draft you CAN NOT let them get away with something you would a light breed. Every horse should have manners. But if someone is going to be one of those owners that doesn't correct and lets the horse think they are in charge, they don't need a draft. Draft are so big that they can hurt you (not meaning to) just by getting in your space if your not careful, not knocking the light breed horses I know they can hurt you also.

But I love my drafts and have no regrets about anything.
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Thanks! That was helpful. I accidentally got a sweet feed, too! I don't have her yet. Her current/previous owner said no sweet feed for her. I know she's a bit of a turd and she will need work on the personal space thing. She's only two (HUGE, but young). One advantage is that I can really take my time doing ground work. She will be at pasture at least half of every day (so the stable president says), sometimes over night. I do want to feed her pulp as well. Her current/previous owner says she needs some weight gain. Clinton Anderson released a video in February about working with drafts. I'm trying to get my hands on it...
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I have 2 full Belgains. One is 16.2 hds the other is 18.2 hds.
During the winter when there is no grass, 1 roll of hay lasts about 2 weeks. Now that it's summer and I have grass, I still have a hay roll so that they will come off the grass a little and give it a break. I dont' stall, they do better with 24/7 turn out, they are to big to be cooped up. I do at night lock them in the smaller pasture( 1/2 acre) with the hay, so the grass can have a small break.

As far as feed, my old guy eats like a light breed. But he don't do anything he's retired. My young guy on the other hand takes a little more, but I don' think you can say its double. NO SWEET FEED. It makes mine hot. I made the mistake one time and got the wrong feed, and said oh well I'll just give them this. One week of sweet feed and they were like 6 year olds on a case of Mountain Dew. Lets face it, a 2000 pound booger hunting freak is not much fun, so no more sweet feed at my house.

I feed Safe and Sound, its low starch and no molasses, I also feed beet pulp without molasses. My feed store is going to start carrying a new draft blend made just for the draft. Can't wait to see what its got in it.

Just if you have a draft you CAN NOT let them get away with something you would a light breed. Every horse should have manners. But if someone is going to be one of those owners that doesn't correct and lets the horse think they are in charge, they don't need a draft. Draft are so big that they can hurt you (not meaning to) just by getting in your space if your not careful, not knocking the light breed horses I know they can hurt you also.

But I love my drafts and have no regrets about anything.
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