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do draft crosses show qualities that might make them good dressage horses?

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        04-05-2012, 03:57 AM
      #91
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    Agreed - we musn't breed horses so as to follow a fashion.

    Dressage should be about creating a harmonious relationship and 'optimising' athletic movement 'in' any 'healthy' horse 'regardless of breed'.
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        12-12-2012, 03:39 AM
      #92
    Weanling
    Just thought I would update this thread with a new picture of Airthrey Highlander the half Clydesdale Dressage Horse

    Quote from local paper
    Noble took the grand prix musical freestyle event riding Linda Moughan’s Airthrey Highlander and was also named grand prix champion.

    They also won the Grandprix the preceeding day.

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        12-12-2012, 09:44 AM
      #93
    Trained
    With a 64%, a 62% and a 67% in the freestyle. While those scores might win ribbons in NZ, they'll get you last place, or close to it, in European CDIs. They are doing a very strategic thing, showing the horse in NZ and not elsewhere.
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        12-12-2012, 10:57 AM
      #94
    Trained
    Regardless of where he is being shown and his scores, thanks for the update, he is a handsome boy, and it is good that he is out there showing.
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        12-12-2012, 12:08 PM
      #95
    Yearling
    Every time someone asks "will this or that breed be able to do dressage?" There are people that jump on with the "only warmblood horses are bred to go all the way"

    I guess I am shocked by that attitude. Many other breeds have gone all the way to the top. More importantly though is... Do you think that the average person who comes on a forum and asks about a breed to purchase to do some dressage with will be going Grand Prix on their first horse? How many dressage riders will achieve that level? I mean, what percentage of people who start out in dressage will ride at the higher levels?

    So now, not only winning at the higher levels not good enough, it MUST be in the European CDI's? Really? That to me is shocking and shameful.

    Though I completely agree that buying the right horse for the job is made easier by getting the breed bred specifically for the discipline, there are others that can and do show well at all levels. None of that really is that important for the average Joe wanting to dabble in dressage. Basically you might as well say, if you don't have a few hundred thousand to buy a horse, train under the best trainers you might as well not bother. So rude and wrong in my opinion.
         
        12-12-2012, 12:29 PM
      #96
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
    With a 64%, a 62% and a 67% in the freestyle. While those scores might win ribbons in NZ, they'll get you last place, or close to it, in European CDIs. They are doing a very strategic thing, showing the horse in NZ and not elsewhere.
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    The title of the thread is
    do draft crosses show qualities that might make them good dressage horses?

    The answer is still yes - whether the horse competes here or in Europe doesn't matter - the question was not would they be world class?

    Just remember when you pay $1000's for your fancy warmblood - deep in its ancestry is a draft horse!

    PS Airthrey Highlander does compete in Australia too! He is also show jumping again - he really shows versatility by not only being a Grand Prix Dressage horse but also a Grand Prix Show Jumper.
         
        12-12-2012, 12:39 PM
      #97
    Green Broke
    Amen Inga!

    Some people need to get over themselves.

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        12-12-2012, 12:42 PM
      #98
    Yearling
    It's not rocket science, folks. Just about anything that's sound and sort of sane can bimble around the lower levels and make amateur owners very happy.

    If you want to be competitive at European CDIs, then you might need a purpose-bred dressage horse.

    That's it.
         
        12-12-2012, 12:51 PM
      #99
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cat    
    Tnavas - do you have pictures of your clydesdale mare now that she is older? I'm curious to compare how she looks and moves now - I find drafts look more "sporty" when they are younger until their bulk catches up with them.
    I realised that having moved photos into albums they have vanished

    Serenity at 2yrs old


    Serenity last year at Horse of the Year aged 8


    Her daughter - now 4yrs old has an extended trot that would make any dressage diva green with envy - daughter is half TB
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        12-12-2012, 01:05 PM
      #100
    Weanling
    I don't know where my comment fits in with the argument at hand but a woman I used to train with owned a vary large IMPRESSIVE (HYPP N/N) bred AQHA that was about 16 maybe 16.1 hands and might as well of been a draft horse lol he was big bodied, beautifully muscled, but had short legs for his size and a long back. He was bred for reining (and obviously he was a failed reining prospect)

    Anyway, She was riding second level when I still knew her and is now on third level now. Her horse, Buddy, had more movement and willingness than practically all of the other TBs and WBs she competes against - she has many blue ribbons.

    I admit, his extended trot is beautiful and he makes a great XC competitor but he looks like a train hurdling himself over an obstacle lol

    I think for the OP, the most important thing they ought to look for is willingness under saddle and a horse the OP feels comfortable on being over six feet tall.

    Here is picture of my friend and her horse doing cross country

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