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post #111 of 214 Old 12-13-2012, 04:22 PM
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The question behind this entire debate still remains...what level is the OP looking to compete in?

But, alas, the OP hasn't posted in almost a year so I don't foresee us getting an answer.

So, all this debate is a moot point to the topic of the original post.

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Irish drafts can do it - anytime

Here's an Irish Draft/ Connemara cross winning at 66% at Affiliated Novice level .
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All the warmbloods have a draft horse somewhere in their pedigree - that is how the term Warmblood came about - the cross between a draft (Coldblood) and a TB or Arabian (Hotblood)

I breed first cross Clydesdale x TB and get a fantastic looking horse with action. My Clydesdale has an extended trot to die for - unfortunately convincing her to expend energy is a different matter!
Thank you for that. I think that people forget that the warmblood was originally a farm horse cross bred and refined over the years as needs and demand changed
I had a wonderful ID X TB that was 17.2 and had all the elevation and natural extension of any WB. Our Clyde x arab is a mini powerpack with energy to spare!!
OP - A lot depends on what you want to do - how high you want to go. If its just for fun then you should go for what you feel most comfortable on provided it can perform to the level you are aiming at
There are some pretty huge warmbloods out there if you are ambitious and you would not look out of place on them at all
BTW - In case I missed it somewhere ' Draft horses are not bred to pull they move things by pushing against the collar so they are no heavier on the hand than any other horse
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With a 64%, a 62% and a 67% in the freestyle. While those scores might win ribbons in NZ, they'll get you last place, or close to it, in European CDIs. They are doing a very strategic thing, showing the horse in NZ and not elsewhere.
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I didnt realise you were an expert on European dressage scoring.
Actually dressage scores can often reflect the high or low expectations of a judge.
Quite often when it comes to International competitions a rider who has consistently scored high in their own country does not do so well against better opposition. High scores can lead too complacency where a lower more critical scoring will make you work a **** sight harder to improve.
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I love winding up my friend who thinks Clydies are the pits that there is a possibility that her warmblood showjumper might have Clydie in it.

Drives her wild!

Warmbloods were originally bred as army remounts - they wanted a tough, sensible no-nonsense horse capable of working hard on minimal feed.

Ha Ha. Start talking about registering your TB X Clyde as an American Warmblood.

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Here's an Irish Draft/ Connemara cross winning at 66% at Affiliated Novice level .

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I didnt realise you were an expert on European dressage scoring.
Actually dressage scores can often reflect the high or low expectations of a judge.
Quite often when it comes to International competitions a rider who has consistently scored high in their own country does not do so well against better opposition. High scores can lead too complacency where a lower more critical scoring will make you work a **** sight harder to improve.
See the fun thing about being an Olympic sport means that the scoring is standardized, regardless of the country. As well there's this website called Eurodressage where scores from most CDIs are posted (anyone who stalks me enough can find some scores of mine on there) and another website called FEITV where you can also watch CDIs in Europe...
Your argument is invalid.

I never said draft horses can't do dressage. Just that there is a very feasible limit to the level they will be able to get to, and that even those that get to GP will not do well by an international standard (as the horse posted by Tnavas is proof of).
For someone looking to achieve good scores at mid to upper levels, they will be better off with a purpose bred horse. The same is true of any sport. I don't know why a reiner on a QH is not snobby but the second someone suggests that there is a more suitable breed for dressage they get lept on and called an elitist bitch.
I smell a double standard.
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See the fun thing about being an Olympic sport means that the scoring is standardized, regardless of the country. As well there's this website called Eurodressage where scores from most CDIs are posted (anyone who stalks me enough can find some scores of mine on there) and another website called FEITV where you can also watch CDIs in Europe...
Your argument is invalid.

I never said draft horses can't do dressage. Just that there is a very feasible limit to the level they will be able to get to, and that even those that get to GP will not do well by an international standard (as the horse posted by Tnavas is proof of).
For someone looking to achieve good scores at mid to upper levels, they will be better off with a purpose bred horse. The same is true of any sport. I don't know why a reiner on a QH is not snobby but the second someone suggests that there is a more suitable breed for dressage they get lept on and called an elitist bitch.
I smell a double standard.
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Anebel.....where we're you called an elitist bitch?
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