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        11-03-2012, 10:10 PM
      #91
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
    Please correct me if I'm wrong, but mutilating animals for vanity's sake is fine with some of you? Because honestly, there is NO GOOD REASON to dock tails or crop ears in horses or dogs except for 'fashion'.

    Unless Dead is baiting bears with dogs (illegal in VA) or hunting wild pigs (none have been sighted in VA), there is no reason other than misplaced machismo to crop a dog's ears or dock their tails. This so called 'hunting reason' is total BS.

    Hogs are here. And there are other hunting methods that do the dog favor for docking tails. Plus there is always that chance of caring dogs over state lines for hogging............... keep doing your homework. You'll find it.

    But I do admit, I am vain. Guilty as charged. I like good lookin women too. That have mutilated themselves too........i.e. Pierced ears, and boob jobs. Yup I can be superficial.
         
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        11-03-2012, 10:16 PM
      #92
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dead Rabbit    
    well there you are. A happy ending to a potential horror story. Thank goodness that dog was barkin nothin but air, or he woulda been attacked. Another pro to debarking.

    Truthfully. I don't believe the story at all. I believe its a "fishing" story meant to enforce your opinion. A known dog aggressive dog not even noticing another dog, going through all the aggressive motions except no sound. Which I don't believe there was no sound either. Sorry....thats just my opiinion. And im standing by it.

    As said before. This aint the uk.
    No, there would not have been a dangerous situation. Dog A, the hostile dog, is a small lab, being walked on a leash. Dog B, the white fluffy debarked dog named Dakota, was IN A YARD ON A LEASH across the street. And no, she was not going through the aggressive motions, she was attempting to bark and wag her tail. She didn't move from where she was standing. Dog A continued happily sniffing along looking for a place to poop, and thus would not have noticed said dog unless she could HEAR it. Which she could not because the awful owners took away her bark (They were very abusive to this poor dog in every way, not just in taking the bark.)

    Frankly, I could give two craps if you believed my story or not. My roommate can vouch for me, not that you'd believe her either. I do not think you should own a dog if you're going to mutilate it and take it's bark away because you like it better that way. If I could I would take YOUR voice away and see how YOU like only being able to squeak out words at the best of times.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A87QkZoOYPo

    Here is a video of what the dog sounded like. There are plenty of dogs on YouTube who have been debarked and bark softened. Some can make noise (bark softening) and some can only squeak or puff out air.
         
        11-03-2012, 10:17 PM
      #93
    Trained
    Skimmed the thread, this may have been said already.

    To say neutering your pet is on the same scale as modifying its ears/tails is ludicrous. Obviously, you haven't spent much time around a cat or dog in heat. It is a PAINFUL experience for them, their body is SCREAMING at them to procreate. They are uncomfortable, mating itself is uncomfortable and even painful. Cats and dogs do not have sex for pleasure. If you think altering an animal to save it from those uncomfortable feelings and urges is similar to cropping ears, you're an idiot.

    As I've seen many people say, cropping, docking, declawing, and debarking are all borderline cruel. It does not serve a purpose except to be fashionable. And that's an ugly way to be. Train your dog so it won't bark, offer your cat other things to scratch, and leave its ears/tail alone.
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        11-03-2012, 10:18 PM
      #94
    Started
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dead Rabbit    
    but I do admit, I am vain. Guilty as charged. I like good lookin women too. That have mutilated themselves too........i.e. Pierced ears, and boob jobs. Yup I can be superficial.
    This has made me loose a great deal of respect for everything and anything you've said this far, and even for you as a person to be completely honest. This makes me want to disregard every comment you've made on this thread as a whole. If you can be that extreme your opinion is already biased.
         
        11-03-2012, 10:23 PM
      #95
    Weanling
    Ahhhh.......now details come out that change the whole scenario. The truth slowly starts to come out.

    Put your roommate on the phone, id like to hear what he has to say. Be interesting, id say.

    You prove my point exactly......... you can't just say I don't approve of it. You make up stories, then try to back peddle by giving out details, that change everything.......then breath threats.
         
        11-03-2012, 10:25 PM
      #96
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PunksTank    
    This has made me loose a great deal of respect for everything and anything you've said this far, and even for you as a person to be completely honest. This makes me want to disregard every comment you've made on this thread as a whole. If you can be that extreme your opinion is already biased.

    Sorry. I do try to add humor to lighten the mood. But hey. Do you want me to lie? Im a man. And id say most men would agree. Once again, sorry to disappoint you.
         
        11-03-2012, 10:28 PM
      #97
    Weanling
    Heres something to meditate on. What would you do with flock gardian dogs, that are absolutely necessary to have, yet have bad habits that don't fit into most modern settings?
         
        11-03-2012, 10:29 PM
      #98
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dead Rabbit    
    heres something to meditate on. What would you do with flock gardian dogs, that are absolutely necessary to have, yet have bad habits that don't fit into most modern settings?
    It's called training. Some people actually do it instead of surgically altering their dogs out of convenience.
         
        11-03-2012, 10:31 PM
      #99
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shoebox    
    It's called training. Some people actually do it instead of surgically altering their dogs out of convenience.

    Now that's a decent post. Worth thinking about and discussing. I like it. But please apply your reasoning to my last post, and tell me how to go about doing this. Im always willing to learn
         
        11-03-2012, 10:47 PM
      #100
    Started
    It absolutely comes down to training as well as situations.
    People who try to make border collie's live in city apartments deserve it when the dog tears the place apart. Dog, cat and horse breeds each are designed for specific purposes and to have particular personalities or attitudes. Buy the one that fits your lifestyle, not the one you think looks prettiest.
    Then once you have the animal that fits your style, train them to fit your needs.

    Cats are declawed because they claw furniture. Buy them a cat tree, put it in a wonderful window - they'll never want to leave. Build shelves around the room so the cat can circle the room without ever touching the floor or your precious furniture - most cats prefer to live up high. If you can't deal with having a cat in your home - don't get one!

    Dogs who's tails and ears are docked/cropped are simply cosmetic - there just is no reason for it. If an injury or issue occurs, please fix it, but don't amputate parts of an animal just because it looks pretty. Unless you really are that vain.

    Dogs who bark to much are easily trained the 'quiet' command - they often do so for a reason or because they were bred to! Hounds bark and bay and yowl - that's what they were designed to do!!! If you don't want them to do it don't get one! Get a breed that fits your requirements rather than getting and dog and surgically altering it to fit your ideals.

    As for your comment about men I would be horrified if that were true - that comment truly damages my faith in humanity, but I just keep hoping you're one of the few that vain.
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