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post #121 of 148 Old 11-04-2012, 12:08 AM
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In a study published October 2001 JAVMA by Dr. Gary J. Patronek VMD, PhD., he states that declawed cats are at an increased risk of relinquishment.
That one I find very very hard to believe as the declawed cats are much much harder to find around here in any rescues. There are literally thousands of cats in this area looking for homes. We do free spay/neuters through Cats Anonymous by the hundreds each time but the numbers are still out of control. It is NOT the declawed cats that are finding their ways into shelters around here. Maybe where you are from things are different.

Again, I didn't have my cats declawed, I am dealing with the damage from this cat and my other one came to me without claws but from my very limited experience with cats in my home, the declawed cat had no more problems physically then the one with claws, she just didn't damage anything while she was here.

It is odd how from area to area it is different. There are tons of vets here that will declaw cats and many who recommend it. The ones involved in rescue with me in fact are recommending it. I think from their perspective it is better to have a cat in a home with no claws then one looking for a home that doesn't exsist for it while keeping it's claws. I have seen several kittens in the clinic right after having it done and they were bouncing about their kennels chasing little toy mice around. They didn't appear too much worse for wear.

Again, I am not saying it is the best scenerio, I don't think it is but we don't live in the best scenerio. I would rather see a cat go through the proceedure if it can get them a loving home with people who care about it then to see it die in a shelter or be tossed out into the cold just because it has claws and the people either have no interest in dealing with it or don't know how to deal with it.
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post #122 of 148 Old 11-04-2012, 12:13 AM
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Like I mentioned in a previous post a great way to help prevent a cat from damaging furniture is to give them better places to go.
The best place for cats is up high, build shelves on the walls or on top of furniture pieces with cat friendly materials. Make sure there are enough shelves so the cat can circle the room without having to touch the ground or furniture you don't want them on. Most cats will prefer to take the higher ground and leave your furniture be - especially if the higher perches are out of reach of the furniture, they'll use the acceptable pieces to get to the higher perches.

Soft paws are also great!! My cat didn't mind them one bit :)
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Like I mentioned in a previous post a great way to help prevent a cat from damaging furniture is to give them better places to go.
The best place for cats is up high, build shelves on the walls or on top of furniture pieces with cat friendly materials. Make sure there are enough shelves so the cat can circle the room without having to touch the ground or furniture you don't want them on. Most cats will prefer to take the higher ground and leave your furniture be - especially if the higher perches are out of reach of the furniture, they'll use the acceptable pieces to get to the higher perches.

Soft paws are also great!! My cat didn't mind them one bit :)

I have done all of that for this cat. She has many options of places to go. Her favorite however is right behind my head on the tall back of the leather computer chair. It has rip marks in the leather. This is not the first computer chair that has been ruined. I am dealing with it. This cat has a home until death do we part. I don't dump my pets but... I will never get another cat with claws. If one shows up without claws in rescue (as I said, they are harder to find around here) but if not... I will likely just never get another cat.
I will ask my vet about the soft paws, I have never seen them in their office.
My cat is right now sitting on my lap, picking me in the leg with her claws. Not pleasant at all but she is very sweet and cute so... she will keep her home.
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You can find softpaws online, petsmart, petco, pets unlimited and any groomer. They are cheap and easy to find :) Just note that there are different sizes. Size goes by weight and age.

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So, is there no more to be said about docking horses' tails?
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post #126 of 148 Old 11-04-2012, 01:01 PM
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And stands back.

Personally I can't see anything else to say, I think it is wrong, I think if it can be done without in the UK, and I presume many others, trying to find a list is proving difficult, but I believe it includes most of Europe and Australia, why is it allowed in North America, it's very sad that vanity and maybe a little convenience means horses losing their tails.

Haflingers are draft animals, don't recall seeing one with a docked tail.
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Haflingers are draft animals, don't recall seeing one with a docked tail.
Thank goodness! what a horrible thought!!
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Shetlands are technically draft horses just mini ones, they were used in the mines and on crofts to pull things never have I seen any with a docked tail.

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It would seem like now that there are getting to be more draft riding horses and show classes that some of them might get to keep their tails? I don't know. Around here it is very very rare to see a draft with a tail. I thought about buying a percheron several years ago. If she had, had a tail I probably would have.
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I brought up the declawing thing because it was a personal struggle for me. I vowed never to declaw a cat for anyone. Then I was working in a clinic and a woman brought a perfectly healthy cat in to be euthanized. I asked her why. She said that her husband was going to kill it with a baseball bat due to the damage that it did to his new furniture with its claws. This was 30 years ago back when nobody declawed cats. She was not even aware that it was a common practice. I suggested that she have it declawed instead. The tears started drying immediately. I did the surgery, and it saved that cat's life as surely as if I had removed a tumor. It would not be my choice for my cat. But it did save that cat's life.

It is not as simple as it seems.
Its still illegal in the Uk to declaw, crop or dock. Most of our vets will help rehome animals brought in to be euthanased for no good reason. My own vet already has 4 dogs and 6 cats. He then got me involved and I have 8 dogs (2 I have fostered for the past 5 years...so they are now permies). Erm I also have quite a few cats... saved from 'the needle' and I have rehomed 24. I have also ended up with a mother hen and 2 chicks (not hers but she adopted them).
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