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    09-18-2012, 08:39 PM
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Gypsy Vanners....

Why are these horses so darn over priced? What's the hype about?

There are a few gypsy horses at a local trainers barn. One of them bucks people off religiously, but wait... She could be a broodmare. Nope, she has been bred 4+ times and never took or never carried to term. I believe she is also 11, not old but still no spring chicken. How much do they want... $11,000 for her. Then they wonder why she doesn't sell.

I know they are easy going, level headed and patient horses but there are many other breeds like them. I've read that you could buy a gypsy vanner across the Atlantic and import it for less money! Also, in Europe you are looked down on for riding a horse the gypsy people use. True??

Anyone willing to educate me?
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    09-18-2012, 09:00 PM
I do not know I ride my Belgium horse so what could I say
    09-18-2012, 09:01 PM
Green Broke

$16,000, looks like she hasn't done anything but run up the hay bill! :P- Horse ID: 1821096 - WestCelt Keira

$15,000, extremely versatile, has earned points in open reining and beautiful to boot!!- Horse ID: 1801976 - SB Lean With Grace
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    09-18-2012, 09:52 PM
I love my gypsy horse I honestly don't think I could have gotten a better horse for the money I paid. She is by far the SANEST horse I've ever met, she acts wise beyond her years and doesn't bat an eye at kids yelling and screaming and running around by her. Not that I can say I would pay 11,000 for a horse of the disposition you described... That being said I would be hardpressed to buy ANY 11,000 horse... or even clsoe to that, just not my cup of tea.
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    09-18-2012, 11:39 PM
I remember in my sophomore year of high school, I had to write an essay about a purchase we would like to make in the future and I wrote mine on a gypsy vanner. After 3 weeks of research I decided I should of written one on a different breed of horse. They're gorgeous, but I don't have the money to buy any horse I want, let alone a pretty, 20,000 dollar one. I love my beautiful lease horse, and she's a QH. May not be the most bombproof, but she's definitely my love
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    09-19-2012, 12:25 AM
Green Broke
From my perspective, I see them as "trendy" and new to the North American market. I think they're great horses (I would love one) but I speculate after the fad dies down, so will their pricing. The thing I find a little disturbing (and I hope gypsy vanner people will comment on this) is the tendency for breeders to be increasing their height -- I don't think that was the breed was originally about.
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    09-19-2012, 12:31 AM
Actually chevaux,

Gypsy's were horses with height (not full draft height but certainly a bit taller than 13-14hh) however after the demand for them to pull vardo's dwindled I believe the demand for a smaller horse/pony became popular and their draft height was bred out until more recently.
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    09-19-2012, 01:23 AM
Originally Posted by SlideStop    
Also, in Europe you are looked down on for riding a horse the gypsy people use. True??

Anyone willing to educate me?
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I can only speak for England where Gypsy Cobs (same thing, different name in the UK) are very popular and very plentiful. They're not looked down on, no breed is I think But obviously are more useful for some pastimes than others.

They are certainly not expensive - sadly, as with so many horses of all breeds, the economic situation means that the unfinished ones can go for meat money or less.
    09-19-2012, 01:40 AM
The horses as a breed are fantastic and perfect for certain people like me. Shorter so easier to mount, stocky-easily can hold an adult, gorgeous- like My Little Pony comes to life, temperament to die for. They are the perfect horse for someone who just loves horses, loves grooming them, spending time with them, doing pleasure riding, not looking to become a grand champion dressage rider, endurance trail, or barrel racer, etc. Not a horse for everyone but then what is.

Are they worth the price? Well, if people are buying, then they are worth it. If a horse isn't selling, it's not worth the price. I do see gypsies getting cheaper though. I've seen a few under 10k which is cheap for them.

Honestly though, I see a LOT of European horses that are easily in that range. Look at friesians for example. I've also read a lot of people say that gypsies are just a colored cob. Well, where I live, if you could even find a cob, they are just as expensive as a gypsy.

Another thing, who cares how a horse is viewed in another country? Quarter horses are plentiful by me, but if someone told me that people pay big money for quarter horses in Europe I wouldn't think, "OMG what fools!" I'd think ....oh, cool, interesting. The cost of a horse or really anything in another country has no bearing on what it can bring in a US market so I don't see why that is always brought up.

Anyway, I hope their price comes down a little more so maybe one day I could actually afford to buy one of these hairy darlings.
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    09-19-2012, 05:01 AM
In the last couple of years, the prices for Gypsies - and they are not all Gypsy 'Vanners', has dropped considerably. Tons now under $5,000. Many I've seen for $3,000 - $6,000. I actually saw a really gorgeous 3 year old taller mare, with some winnings to her credit, for $3,500 last year.

Most of the time, the ones imported to the US years ago, were top quality stock and not any old coloured horses, seen by the side of the road in the UK.

Actually, some of the Gypsy breeders in the UK, have actually purchased back to England, some of our quality horses in the US. Certainly we have some of the best in the world here now.

If you do a search on this forum, for Gypsy Vanner, you will find endless message threads about them. They are not all expensive. In fact, you will find many breeds much more expensive. Consider the Mini who was sold at auction, for $100,000!!!

Some of the big farms with huge advertising budgets, can afford to keep their prices high. Seek out the small, responsible breeder, who doesn't have giant ads plastered all over the net. Learn what to look for and you can find some bargains. Certainly better than purchasing in the UK and then spending maybe $10-$12 thousand dollars for importing, quarantine and eventual transport to your home.

I won't critique the two horses in the links, but I know the Gypsy mare has a top-notch pedigree.


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