Thanks for the sugestion Saddlebag, however we are not quite at that point yet. I can't rub him with my hand, nevermind a rope. If he doesnt make some fairly quick progress I may have to sedate him to trim his feet, althought they will be ok for a few weeks. If he does get sedated I may put a halter on at that point. We dewormed him by putting small amounts of paste in his feed over a few days. He will be wormed again with a different wormer when the herd gets wormed in march