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    10-26-2010, 08:09 PM
Originally Posted by Redial    
If you cut his balls off, I'll report you for a crime! He's stunning, I hate the fact that I'm in Australia, ship me some semen would ya!
I could not agree more!! If I had a mare, I would be robbing a bank to be able to fly her over to Canada right now

That horse is AMAZINGLY gorgeously breathtaking. You are super lucky to have him.
More photos so I can drool please
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    10-27-2010, 12:31 AM
Originally Posted by AlexS    
Oh my! He is absolutely stunning. Any luck figuring out what he is yet?
Not yet...its' down to DNA now...were looking into it. I figure its worth while cause chances are he's a combo of the typical breeds we have in Canada, just an unusual combo :) pretty slim chance that he would be of Boulonnais decent, regardless of the resemblance.
    10-27-2010, 12:32 AM
Originally Posted by arksly    
i can't get over how amazing he is! You should invite people over to look at him and charge admission!

Lol... :)
    10-27-2010, 12:38 AM
Originally Posted by My2Geldings    
Being originally from Europe and growing up with those guys I will definitely say he is one. He isn't your typical red roan, but his confo and build scream it. He's outstanding. I do understand your thinking of not wanting to geld him if he is a rarer breed. Have you checked to see if he happens to have any tattoos? I would contact your local Ardennais association to see if there is any way to tract him down in a registry. If you can't verify what he is and paper him, unfortunately he wont be of good stallion value.

I contacted the only Ardennes breeder I could find, she's in the states, sent her pictures and she said although there are similarities, she is doubtful, mostly due to the color. She passed the photo onto friends and they thought more Boulonnais...?? Can't imagine the series of events that would have led him to the meat mans door if that is true...Im leaning more to believing he is an unusual cross of the more common breeds we have here in Canada, the alternative seems implausible. No tattoo's :(
    10-27-2010, 03:17 PM
He would make a great poster horse. I would probably buy a poster of him. Get a professional photog on that :)
    10-27-2010, 04:31 PM
K guys, thought Id check with you...I thought there was a test for this. I sent thisemail to UC Davis, did I explain what I was lookingfor wrong do you think??The response is above the origonal email. Hello,

There is not a test available for identifying breed in horses.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Tralauney Reply-To: Tralauney Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 21:09:27 -0700
Subject: WEB - Tralauney
>we have recently obtained a draft stud but have no history on him, he is very unusual looking and we are considering having him DNA'd to see what breed(s) he is. What typeof test would this be, how much would it cost, does the fact that we are located in Canada pose any problems, if he is one of European draft lineage ie:Boulonnais will you be able to show that? Thank you for your time! :)
    10-27-2010, 04:44 PM
I did a bit of checking when I got a horse last year that I was curious about. They can tell if horses are related, or for certain traits like color and genetic markers bu they can not tell what breed a horse is by the DNA. (yet)
    10-27-2010, 05:14 PM
Green Broke
I thought it was funny seeing such a HUGE horse with a teeny tiny food pan..haha.
Wow, you must feel reaaallly lucky to have him. I'd be bragging left to right about him! Soooo amazing. I am in looooove! What's his name?

Always had a question. He is a draft horse and well the feathering on drafts I was curious about because..I think it's a belgian that have it reaaally long where you can't see their hoovess but do you have to lift up their hair everyday to see if they hurt themselves or something going on?
    10-27-2010, 07:26 PM
I discovered this rather late, but would like to add my thoughts. He is certainly, a really lovely boy! He looks pretty well made all round.

Judging by his colour, bone, height etc., he quite well might be a full or cross Gypsy Horse. There are many in Canada and lots of breeders cross breed Gypsies to other drafts, to obtain Drum Horses. Looking at his feather (and it is feather in horses, not feathers) one and possibly both, had it in good quantity. Feather is recessive and most usually, breeding a feathered horse to a non-feathered or not very good feathered horse, will end up with a poorly feathered horse. His feather looks to be bog-burned across the front, which tells me that with good care, you should be able to grow it to the ground.

Very few drafts across the world, have what we would describe as good feather. The Gypsy Horse is one of those breeds, hence my thought he might be a Gypsy cross.

If you would give me permission, I could post his pic on the GH forum, to see if anyone recognises him. We do have many Canadian members. Let me know.

Another quick word. Do pay close attention to what might be going on under his feather, especially on the back of his pasterns. Almost all feathered breeds can get horrid problems there, (ie. Scratches and CPL) if not constantly watched. Check all four feet weekly.

    10-27-2010, 10:21 PM
Originally Posted by louisvillecigar    
I did a bit of checking when I got a horse last year that I was curious about. They can tell if horses are related, or for certain traits like color and genetic markers bu they can not tell what breed a horse is by the DNA. (yet)
THANK YOU for the info...I honestly thought it was common place, I think a lot of people do as many have suggested to have it done...guess theres no way of knowing now...thats a little bittersweet, I was hoping to have some answers, but I still think he's a jem anyways :)

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