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    11-04-2012, 03:48 PM
  #11
Weanling
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Originally Posted by sportschick068    
Well, I've done the two different string tests and both came out to 16.3. Do either of you know how accurate those tests are?

I don't feel a need, necessarily, for a tall horse. I just prefer them. The lowest height that I personally like is 15.3 which is how tall my older horse is. I just try to avoid looking awkward on small horses in addition to the fact that I just like 15.3+ hand horses. I like their longer strides and all.

I feel like my horse will reach past 16 hands at least, but I wasn't sure because she really hasn't grown in height for about 5-6 months or so. She's been thickening though.

So, from both of your experiences, do you think that each horse just grows differently based on breeds they're crossed with and gender? Like I said, I'm just curious. I'm nosey and want to know if I'm going to need a parachute when I ride her one day. Oh and here's just a couple pictures of her :)

The second picture is of her standing next to my 15.3 QH gelding.
Breeding and genetics do have a part to play regarding the final height of a horse. From what you are saying she may certainly grow to around the 16hh, especially if her bum is already measuring that. I still get confused with the terminology for draft horses but I am getting my head around it. In my country we call cross breed horses cobs and heavy cobs and she looks like a heavy cob type to me. (Draft horse tends to be used to describe heavies like Shires) Heavy cobs tend to stop growing at around 5 +/- whereas true 'Heavy Horses' mature very slowly and don't stop growing until 6 or 7. By the age of 4, in heavy cobs their growth rate slows right down and they do start to fill out beautifully. My guess (and it is only a guess) is that she will end up at around 16.1 hh or 16.3hh which is a pretty good size for a cob type of horse. As for parachuting, you'll be fine. My Clydesdale is 18.1 hh and I am 5 ft 3"...and I have to abseil down his side when I get off him LOL. I think your horse is a very, very pretty looking mare. Are you goning to breed from her? I think her foals will be stunning. She really is a beauty and you can see she is very well cared for and very much loved (am I allowed to say that or is it too sentimental?)
     
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    12-10-2012, 01:46 PM
  #12
Foal
I'm so sorry, somehow I completely lost track of this thread! :( I guess because I didn't know how to use this site or anything haha.

Thanks so much, everyone!

I just measured her again the other day in hopes that she grew, but no. I don't know what changed but her withers are 15.1 1/2 and her butt measured at 15.2 1/2. I think when I measured initially, it was slightly uneven ground? I don't know... Some people talk about their draft crosses being 3 years old and already around 16+ hands in addition to my horse's full brother being 16h when he was only 2 (now he's 4 and 16.2+ hands). I'm hoping she'll grow some more eventually, but she's been about the same height for over a year. She's gotten a little thicker, but that's all :/

So do mares grow slower than geldings/stallions? I'm so antsy and excited to see what height she will eventually grow to. For a while she was growing like a weed but then stopped around August of 2011. I keep a little book that tracks her progress and stuff :)


Good lord, Bluebird, 18.1 hands?!?! I'd be afraid of dismounting hahaha

Unfortunately, I don't think I would ever breed her. She has such an amazing temperament and she is beautiful, but she has some conformational faults :( She's a bit cow-hocked in the back and back at the knee in the front. Fortunately, I just changed farriers so Callie's legs are starting to straighten out so we'll see.
     
    12-11-2012, 12:02 PM
  #13
Weanling
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Originally Posted by sportschick068    
I'm so sorry, somehow I completely lost track of this thread! :( I guess because I didn't know how to use this site or anything haha.

Thanks so much, everyone!

I just measured her again the other day in hopes that she grew, but no. I don't know what changed but her withers are 15.1 1/2 and her butt measured at 15.2 1/2. I think when I measured initially, it was slightly uneven ground? I don't know... Some people talk about their draft crosses being 3 years old and already around 16+ hands in addition to my horse's full brother being 16h when he was only 2 (now he's 4 and 16.2+ hands). I'm hoping she'll grow some more eventually, but she's been about the same height for over a year. She's gotten a little thicker, but that's all :/

So do mares grow slower than geldings/stallions? I'm so antsy and excited to see what height she will eventually grow to. For a while she was growing like a weed but then stopped around August of 2011. I keep a little book that tracks her progress and stuff :)


Good lord, Bluebird, 18.1 hands?!?! I'd be afraid of dismounting hahaha

Unfortunately, I don't think I would ever breed her. She has such an amazing temperament and she is beautiful, but she has some conformational faults :( She's a bit cow-hocked in the back and back at the knee in the front. Fortunately, I just changed farriers so Callie's legs are starting to straighten out so we'll see.
It depends on what her parentage is regarding her draft breed heritage. Cow Hocks on a Clydesdale are a breed standard not a fault so if she has some Clydie in her, its not a fault. Don't be too critical about her. Mares tend to be smaller than the boys and as long as she is healthy and you love her, does it really matter what height she is going to be? As for the 18.1 hh, that is for my pure bred Clydesdale. My 'baby' Clyde aged 18months is now 16.3hh and may make 17.3. Both boys have beautiful cow hocks! LOL
     
    12-11-2012, 03:10 PM
  #14
Foal
Well, her sire is a Shire. The only issue I have with the cowhocks is the fact that I'm hoping she will be a jumper when she is of age. I don't think cowhocks would be good for jumping, but maybe she won't be bad off since she isn't HORRIBLY cowhocked.

Eh, I just like tall horses haha. I've ridden a 15.3h QH for 13 years (my old man, Blaze) but rode a 16.3h Holsteiner at school. I just fell in love with the longer strides because Blaze has short, quick strides. Of course, I love Callie no matter what. I just hope she hits 16 hands haha. I'm also just so anxious :P It's been awesome watching her grow up and I wish I could look into the future to see how tall and elegant she will look. Right now when I ride her (mostly just walking and a 5+min trot to build a little muscle and get her used to having someone on her), I still look big on her and she's measuring at 15.1-ish. Of course though, she's still a baby.

I guess I'm also still in high hopes of her growing a smidge more (at least in the withers) and having a better conformation (which is improving with the new farrier) because there is doubt at the barn. A couple people are like 'she'll probably be built down hill... she won't be a good jumper... you won't be able to do what you want with her... etc.' so I just want them proven wrong :)
     
    12-12-2012, 06:45 AM
  #15
Weanling
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Originally Posted by sportschick068    
Well, her sire is a Shire. The only issue I have with the cowhocks is the fact that I'm hoping she will be a jumper when she is of age. I don't think cowhocks would be good for jumping, but maybe she won't be bad off since she isn't HORRIBLY cowhocked.

Eh, I just like tall horses haha. I've ridden a 15.3h QH for 13 years (my old man, Blaze) but rode a 16.3h Holsteiner at school. I just fell in love with the longer strides because Blaze has short, quick strides. Of course, I love Callie no matter what. I just hope she hits 16 hands haha. I'm also just so anxious :P It's been awesome watching her grow up and I wish I could look into the future to see how tall and elegant she will look. Right now when I ride her (mostly just walking and a 5+min trot to build a little muscle and get her used to having someone on her), I still look big on her and she's measuring at 15.1-ish. Of course though, she's still a baby.

I guess I'm also still in high hopes of her growing a smidge more (at least in the withers) and having a better conformation (which is improving with the new farrier) because there is doubt at the barn. A couple people are like 'she'll probably be built down hill... she won't be a good jumper... you won't be able to do what you want with her... etc.' so I just want them proven wrong :)
Just a heads up. Depending on how much 'heavy horse' she has in her, she will not necesdsarily make a good jumping horse. If she is taking on a heavier frame from her Sire (Shire) with the majority of her weight across shoulders and front legs (think pulling), I would advise against jumping her competitively as you could do some damage to her in the longer term. However, if she takes more after her mothers side and is more of a 'cob' type which tends to make a good all rounder, then go for it. We tend not to back/break pedigree heavies until they are at least 3 years old. We wait until they are around 6years to start them on pulling.
     
    12-12-2012, 09:30 AM
  #16
Foal
:)

Yup! I'm always keeping her body type in mind. I wouldn't be jumping huge obstacles with her though. Plus, I'm not even introducing her to jumping until much farther down the road she she can grow and mature more.

Since she is still growing, she'll thicken then even out, thicken then even out again. Here is a more recent picture of her with a saddle on though. I wish I could post a video on here but I don't know how.

Pardon her leg conformation. Her last farrier screwed her a bit so she is in the process of improvement now that I've switched to a better one :P
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    12-12-2012, 11:12 AM
  #17
Weanling
She is lovely. She is what we call in the UK a 'cob type' in her body. She looks more like she will take after her mum than her dad in that way. But, take note, her head is huge in comparison to her body which means a bit of weight for her to carry at the front end at the moment. She will even out though and be a very pretty looking horse. This is good news for you because it means she is going to be a good all rounder. Leave jumping for a little further down the road though until her hooves improve and her body matures. She may make around 16hh looking at her. Never will be a top show jumper with her conformation but I can guarantee you are going to have a lot of fun with her. Don't overdo it while she is still so young as she still has some growing to do but enjoy her. I think she is absolutely gorgeous!
     
    12-12-2012, 11:30 AM
  #18
Foal
Yup! I'm trying to take it slow. I'm in no rush since I will have her for her entire life but I'm still anxious/excited about it haha. She's typically described as having a "baby doll head" so maybe it's the angle of the pictures? Or she's hit an awkward stage haha. Fortunately she doesn't have the mammoth sized draft head like a couple of her siblings did (beard and all, but they were still adorable). As for showing, she would just do the local shows when she is of age. I'm considering putting her in one or two classes in a show next summer just doing walk-trot.

Thank you! She definitely knows she's pretty. SHe's the flirt at the barn haha
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    12-14-2012, 08:38 PM
  #19
Green Broke
Those string test don't work much on drafts! At least the ones around here!

Not sure about crosses but the purebreds can grow until they are seven. Mine had his last growth spurt the summer after he turned seven and I was like come on!! You have got to stop! He finally did. LOL!
     
    12-17-2012, 09:39 AM
  #20
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Magaidh    
I've got a two-year-old Percheron cross. It really is a waiting game to see how they're going to develop! I bought him at 8 months and he was 14.1 at the withers and 15 hands in the hind when I got him last April.

Now a month after his 2nd birthday he is approximately 16.2 hands. His dad was a 17 hand Oldenburg and mom a 17+ hand Percheron.

I have heard from others with draft crosses that they've seen varying rates of growth. Some seem to stretch up at the last minute, others like my guy keep on a steady march upward.

Also, I believe geldings tend to grow taller, faster than stallions/mares? I do not know if this is true.

I wouldn't be surprised if your girl finished off over 16 hands.

She's very pretty, too.
I have read that gelding allows their growth plates to stay open longer. It seems that the testosterone is what helps in the closing of the plates and removing that creates a situation where the plates stay open longer thus allowing more growth.
     

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