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post #21 of 27 Old 10-18-2013, 09:32 AM Thread Starter
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Our horses have always been what we call 'middle of the road' horses. Not TB in type but not real heavily muscled either. 'Halter type' QHs have no endurance and have no quickness or athletic ability. Our horses have always been very quick footed but not quite as quick as the tiny cutting horses. They have all been very cowey. Probably their biggest asset is that they are very good minded and very 'trainable'.

The man wanting to use our mares has owned several horses we have raised and really likes riding and training them. He has roped and done ranch work off of several we have raised. He has rodeo bulls and does rodeo stock contracting and wants bigger, thicker and slower horses in the arena for that purpose. His best pickup horses have all been draft crosses. He has had a difficult time finding what he wants so he thought he would raise his own.

So, it will be our mares and whatever big, heavy gray stallion he can find to cross on them. He is not real concerned about 'beauty'. [I am more than he is.] He wants horses that will hold up for a very tough job. It seems there are many more black Percherons than the gray ones we used to always see. If a black horse does not have a red gene, he should get a good number of grays and will not get any sorrels. He may have to get a black stud if he cannot find a gray one.
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Out of curiosity I googled the 'cross' and found this one - nice looking result and looks handy too.
Percheron X QH Ranch, Hunting, Trail Riding Gelding
As does this one
Very Handsome, Great Minded, Fantastic all-rounder!! | Buy this Horse at Equine.com
So should be a good mix
Did you ask the people I posted a link too that are based here in CT - they seem to only have blacks but might know of someone with a grey colt?
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Those two geldings are EXACTLY what he wants to raise and use. We both know they won't all come out that nice, but I'll bet they will all really ride.
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I would think they would make super horses for just about anything as they should have good temperaments as well as good looks
My farriers wife has a percheron x TB that does dressage, jumps, X country and is the safest but really willing trail horse you could wish for and lovely to look at too.
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If he wants to breed bigger boned, more weight carrying horses then it is best to go ’blood to bone' heavier mares under a blood stallion.
This is a fairly common cross in the UK for good weight carrying hunters.

As for what breed of stallion I would always go for an Irish Draught for a riding produce.
Most good draught horse breeds want cow hocks - the old saying for show animals was always "A bowler hat between the front legs and a post card between the hocks."
This is not so with the ID which are a very different stamp to the originals, the breed nearly extinct after WW2. It is now a very versatile animal and has a much better action than most draughts.

Pity he doesn't want to spend as I am sure I could find a good horse in Eire!
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There is no knowledgeable US draft horse breeder that wants a cow hocked horse. Cow hocks are weak. Close set of the hocks where the cannon bones are parallel to each other are strong and sound. Apples and oranges.
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Cow hocks are an acceptable breed characteristic in the Clydesdale - always something to look at in them when you use them to cross breed with a lighter horse
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