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post #11 of 16 Old 01-08-2011, 10:23 PM
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Don't think having a horse already trained somehow takes the fun or learning out of it. On the contrary, a horse already trained lets you have fun and learn right away.

There is a saying that goes "horses train people, then people train horses." In other words get a good horse to help train you, then after a number of years you can get a horse to train.

Maybe you will be a lot more successful than I am (although horses are my lifelong passion and I haven't stopped learning about them since I was a kid) but I have had horses for about 16 years, and I am only just now training my first one from the ground up. And it's harder than I thought it would be.

But look at it this way, if you get a horse with training you can skip much of the frustration and trouble and actually enjoy the horse (and learn) right away. There will be plenty to learn with even a well broke horse, and you can still do all the groundwork and stuff with them too.

So it's up to you, but almost everyone who has had horses for a while can agree that it's enough of a challenge for a first time owner with even a properly trained horse, much less a horse without training.

Good luck with your search. I would love to own a draft!
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post #12 of 16 Old 01-08-2011, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by usandpets View Post
Training a horse to ride will take 1-2 hours a day, 5 days a week at least and for several weeks.
That's all? If that were the case, then everyone with some free time could do it. I think training in an ongoing process that takes years and years. If it was something that could be done in several weeks, well, all I would have to do is stash my colt in a pasture somewhere, pull him out when he is 3, spend a few weeks with him and viola, riding horse! But it doesn't work that way (does it?).

I think you are probably just referring to the saddle breaking process, but still.....even if you send a horse out to a trainer for breaking, isn't the usual 90 days? And that is if the horse is ready to go with ground manners and everything. Then you get the horse back and have to put tons of mileage on it, hoping you and the horse do well together without have to use to the trainer after that.

I dunno, but I expect to spend years training my colt, even if I end up having a trainer do the first 90 days under saddle. Maybe I'm just making life harder than it is?
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post #13 of 16 Old 01-09-2011, 05:11 AM
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Going with the group here. You will most likely have much more fun and learn safely from a horse who has some experience. Young ones can be really tough, as some here have stated. They may lead fine today-then tomorrow they act stupid-you react incorrectly, and it becomes a major issue. They are MUCH more impressionable, for the most part, than a horse who has been around the block a few times.

I also agree with geldings being less "complicated"....just personal preference.

I disagree that the youngsters are less $$. Yes, the initial outlay of cash may be less, but you have to consider the time you will have them until they are rideable (at least I do), which can add thousands, depending upon your board. You will also, most likely, have to pay someone to do the initial breaking for you, since it doesn't sound like you have the ability?
All of a sudden a $10 Belgian baby (the last one I was REALLY tempted on at an auction) becomes a $4000 horse easily by the time they are rideable.

I just think one with a bit more age is more of a "known" commodity. They are less apt to dramatically change over time. Youngsters are still developing, both physically and mentally.

Good luck-I love the drafties too-you might even look at Frog Pond draft horse rescue-they have some nice ones for adoption. And they will tell you exactly what you are getting. Great people. Very knowledgable on drafts.

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post #14 of 16 Old 01-09-2011, 08:24 AM Thread Starter
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I thank everyone for their assistance and will now be directing my attention in looking for an older already trained horse. The younger Clydes I looked at yesterday were affordable for me ($2k and under)and the cost of training over the long run was not an issue. However the trained ones I looked at were $4500 and up and not looking to spend that much out of pocket all right away. Going to look at a Belgian and a Percheron soon that are already trained older. Thanks again for everyones help.
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post #15 of 16 Old 01-10-2011, 03:41 PM
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For your first horse, even if you are experienced, i would still recommend a trained horse. If you do get a younger horse, it could be damaging to not only you, but also the horse.
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post #16 of 16 Old 01-12-2011, 01:59 AM
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I understand your wanting a horse that isn't carrying any "baggage" from previous owners but there really are great horses out there that will bond with you and have no issues. Even if you do get a horse that isn't the most personable at first, if you treat them well, they will come around. We have a 17 yr. old large pony we bought and he was a wonderful horse to ride but scared of us on the ground. Now about 4 years later, he is such a character and it makes me feel so great to see his personality coming out. In the meantime, he is the pony/horse that everyone wants to ride. He knows his job and does it and I didn't have any hand in that. You will derive much more pleasure in getting a horse you can ride and learn from. I am just finishing up my 6 yr. old that I've had since he was 11 mos. old and got another baby and part of me is wondering "What am I doing?" Training is not all fun..... takes a lot of experience and patience. Have you considered a draft cross. My gelding is a draft cross, he's huge and a great horse but considerably cheaper than a pure draft. Just a thought. Goodluck to you!

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