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    04-29-2009, 11:50 AM
  #11
Trained
Great blog! Thanks for sharing that!
     
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    04-29-2009, 12:01 PM
  #12
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by MIEventer    
Well - I am not highly educated on drafts and conformation and all that, but I do believe any breed of horse can do any low level activity.

On that note - I would be very hesitant to buy a draft especially for Eventing. They are bred to be work horses, pulling horses and therefore their conformation is meant for that.

Even though I see drafts jumping, that doesn't mean they should be. In my opinion.

I think they would be more suceptable to breaking down before they should be due to what they are built for.
I completely agree. I have a 3/4 TB 1/4 Shire and even SHE's a lot bigger than most. I would be hesitant to buy anything for eventing bigger than a half cross
     
    04-29-2009, 04:28 PM
  #13
Foal
That was an awesome blog!

I spoke to the owner, and she is willing to drop the price, take payments, AND give me a 30 day trial! She said he will definitely 100% pass a vet check. (We will see!)

I am really leaning towards getting this horse for a couple reasons:

My fiancee is a complete beginner, but is 5'11" and 330lbs (yep he's a big boy!) so it's VERY hard to find a horse he can ride. He LOVES Percheron's and rides my friends Percheron once in a while. He is 16.2hh and VERY thick just like Jake (this Percheron I'm interested in - but Jake is bigger @ 17.3 and VEEEEERY wide) This is the first person I've come across that will let me do a trial. I am thinking that pending how this horse is tomorrow, I will take him on trial and see how he does. If I like him and he seems like he would be okay for low level eventing, I will buy him, do the low levels, and then in 4 or 5 years, give him to my fiancee and buy my upper level eventer...... Any thoughts? I was thinking that I will do the PPE at the end of the trial, just to make sure I really want him and don't waste a PPE. Do you think this is a bad idea?
     
    05-04-2009, 06:17 PM
  #14
Showing
That was a really interesting blog, thanks for sharing it. I'm going to continue reading it later.
     
    05-11-2009, 02:23 PM
  #15
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by MIEventer    
Well - I am not highly educated on drafts and conformation and all that, but I do believe any breed of horse can do any low level activity.

On that note - I would be very hesitant to buy a draft especially for Eventing. They are bred to be work horses, pulling horses and therefore their conformation is meant for that.

Even though I see drafts jumping, that doesn't mean they should be. In my opinion.

I think they would be more suceptable to breaking down before they should be due to what they are built for.
That's not at all true though. They are meant to be whatever you want. There are MANY jumping drafts and drafts that do dressage or even roping drafts. You take care of them like any other horse and they will be fine. Obviously they won't do very high jumps but they can be extremely successful at lower jumping.
     
    05-13-2009, 11:34 PM
  #16
Weanling
I have known several drafts Percherons and Shires that do foxhunting quite successfully. I rode a 18 hand Shire on the hunt field once and loved it. I love riding big horses, too. The only thing is if your out in the field and find yourself on the ground for what ever reason you'll have a hard time getting back up there without a block.
     
    05-13-2009, 11:48 PM
  #17
Weanling
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Originally Posted by back in the crosby again    
I have known several drafts Percherons and Shires that do foxhunting quite successfully. I rode a 18 hand Shire on the hunt field once and loved it. I love riding big horses, too. The only thing is if your out in the field and find yourself on the ground for what ever reason you'll have a hard time getting back up there without a block.

Amen to that! I looked at a fox hunting clyde cross mare, granted she was only 16 hands but there was a clyde stallion and a percheron mare who fox hunted with NO problem, normal fox hunting jumps are about 3 feet tall.
With the right training, you should have no problem
     
    05-14-2009, 01:08 AM
  #18
Trained
Right, we see drafts and draft crosses jumping , but it is how long can they do it before they start breaking down, due to what their conformation is meant to do, the sole purpose of their breeding - pulling.

Their shoulders, their chests, their hips, their pasturns are made for pulling - not jumping. Their conformation will not be compareable to a TB's or to a Pedigree'd WB - etc, etc.

That's all I'm saying.

Yeah, we see drafts out there jumping, regardless of training - conformation is conformation.
     
    05-14-2009, 10:25 AM
  #19
Weanling
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Originally Posted by MIEventer    
Right, we see drafts and draft crosses jumping , but it is how long can they do it before they start breaking down, due to what their conformation is meant to do, the sole purpose of their breeding - pulling.

Their shoulders, their chests, their hips, their pasturns are made for pulling - not jumping. Their conformation will not be compareable to a TB's or to a Pedigree'd WB - etc, etc.

That's all I'm saying.

Yeah, we see drafts out there jumping, regardless of training - conformation is conformation.
I agree that they were built for pulling, but I think the mind of the horse has just as much to do with what a horse will be good at. I have known horses breed and built for jumping that did not like doing so. They were much happier with another occupation. I think everyone has heard of the horse that some cowboy is just giving away, because despite the cow horse breeding, the horse hates cows. The shire that I talked about earlier foxhunted into his old age and he loved his job.
     
    05-14-2009, 10:53 AM
  #20
Trained
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I agree that they were built for pulling, but I think the mind of the horse has just as much to do with what a horse will be good at. I have known horses breed and built for jumping that did not like doing so. They were much happier with another occupation. I think everyone has heard of the horse that some cowboy is just giving away, because despite the cow horse breeding, the horse hates cows. The shire that I talked about earlier foxhunted into his old age and he loved his job.
Right, I agree - heart has allot to do with it, but regardless of heart, if the horse doesn't have the correct conformation to do the job, the horse wont beable to do the job for long, or has to stay at a certain point to prevent from breaking down.

Drafts bones are not the same as a TB's bones *I just use the TB as example* nor are their joints the same as a QH's. Their bodies mature slower, their pasturns are shorter, their shoulders, their hips - a draft cannot take the traction, impact, trauma as well as horses who are bread for that sport can.

Now, granted - there are horses out there who aren't drafts that don't have the correct conformation either and there are many out there that break down because their owners are in it for themselves and not their horses - but drafts aren't bred to be jumpers, they are bred to be work horses.

Yes, there are beautiful and well bred Draft X TB's. Because they are bred properly, carefully. Same with other breeds that are bred with the mindset of tough compeition.

I am not arguing the fact that drafts can jump. I see it, I've seen it, I've ridden them. What I am saying, is that they will and can break down before they should, because their bodies wont permit too much of it due to how they are structurally, physically made.
     

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