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post #1 of 17 Old 07-06-2009, 03:50 PM Thread Starter
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Percheron Running Into Canter?

The two percherons I have ridden both ran into the canter terebly. Is this normal for percherons? Or did I just ride two that weren't trained so well? They were trained by compleatly different people and in compleatly different states. Thanks in advanced!

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post #2 of 17 Old 07-06-2009, 04:22 PM
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What exactly do you mean by "running into the canter"?

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I would look at the rider first, before saying the horses are not trained.

Most horses that run into the canter were not set up properly, nor prepared to break into the upward transition due to rider error. They are flat and on the forehand during the asking for the transition - hence, the running into the canter.

I have seen Drafts at Dressage Comps move into the upward transition beautifully because their rider has them balanced, on their hind end, and lifts them into their aids through asking for the movement.

It is more than likely the way you were riding and how you asked.

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^no, because they both did it with their own riders. The second was trained by a pro eventer, and ridden by a training level rider.

And smrobs like trotting really fast and you have to keep pressing to get them to canter.

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just because they did it with their owners doesn't mean it's not the riding that is causing the problem. I know that when my draft cross rushes into the canter (which is like... 90% of the time) it's because I don't package her enough or set her up right.

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I wouldn't say it is a "breed trait". I've seen nicely balanced draft horses and seen horses of all breeds that rushed into the canter or were poorly balanced overall.

I wouldn't say it is a result of the breed, it is the result of poor riding and training. Regardless of if the horse was trained by an Olympian or you, if he is rushing, there is a hole in riding or training. Errors are almost always at the fault of the humans.
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Thank you for explaining. :)

I agree, I don't think it is a breed trait. I think it is more of a training/riding issue. It is all about having the horse responsive to cues. My perch that I started this January did this at first because he didn't know what I was asking. After he kinda figured it out, I could get him into a lope from a slow trot without speeding up at all.

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My horse was doing it for awhile to the left because he was unbalanced to the left. Now we're better but he understand the cues, it was just uncomfortable for him to do it.
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Ah, ok. I really was talking about specifically percherons.

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Percherons are the same as other horses. They are built differently, yes but the basics are the same.
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