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post #1 of 39 Old 05-28-2010, 01:52 PM Thread Starter
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Questions About Drafts?

Hi! I'm new to the forum (this'll be my first post), although I've been reading posts on here for the last couple of months. First, I hope my icon (which is not horsey, and is actually from a video game), does not offend anyone. If it does, I will replace it. Second, I hope to get to know most of you, and come here often (when I have the time, which is... rare).

Anyway, back on topic.

I'm considering getting a Belgian/Quarter-Horse cross. According to his current owners:

*He's 10-12 years old.
*He is 17-18HH (they aren't sure; no one has ever measured him)
*He was dead trail broke 3 years ago, but they got him as a "pet" and have only been riding him in a pasture. They've been riding him bareback.
*The last owner sold him because he has a scar on his leg, and that bothered him. They've had it looked at by vets and they've shown me pictures. They claim he is not bothered by it, and they only have to put fly spray on it as it doesn't get hair. They say he was injured by a deer. It doesn't look bad, really.
*They say he is non-destructive, aside from cribbing lightly (they did show pictures of his teeth, and they seem fine). He doesn't "challenge" fences.
*They say he is very laid back and calm. They have pictures of someone on his back, and children petting him, so I'm willing to believe it.
*His conformation, imo, looks fine. I don't know much about that, but I don't see anything odd.
*UTD on shots/worming/coggins.
*They're asking $600.

Does he sound like a good animal for the price? Incidentally, I live in Indiana, and I've only been here a few months, so I don't know the market much here.

I currently own 3 horses, so it isn't like this is my "first horse"; I also have experience with Drafts (when I boarded two of mine, the one horse's neighbor was a draft, who I basically cared for; he had a LOT more problems than this one, if the owners are telling the truth). I don't plan on showing him, or doing anything more than "goofing off" on him and trail riding him.

I can get pictures of him and the scar, if nessacary.

Oh, and I won't be boarding him, so that doesn't matter.
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I think you should go and try him out before you do anything. Do you have pictures of him that you would be able to show us? That would help us to maybe point out anything that could be a problem. As for the cribbing, that can go either way. It is a horrible habit for a horse to have but if I loved everything else about him, it probably wouldn't be a deal breaker. However, there are other health issues that can come from him being a cribber like colic, ulcers, and dental issues. If you can afford it, a pre purchase exam would probably be a good thing to get. But my advice is to go to where he is and ride him or watch them ride him before you go any further.

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I think you should go and try him out before you do anything. Do you have pictures of him that you would be able to show us? That would help us to maybe point out anything that could be a problem. As for the cribbing, that can go either way. It is a horrible habit for a horse to have but if I loved everything else about him, it probably wouldn't be a deal breaker. However, there are other health issues that can come from him being a cribber like colic, ulcers, and dental issues. If you can afford it, a pre purchase exam would probably be a good thing to get. But my advice is to go to where he is and ride him or watch them ride him before you go any further.

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Yeah, I planned on going to see him/ride him before I actually handed them any money. That's what I've done in the past. I'm very picky on personality, and I've visited a couple of horses that were dead broke and good deals, but had personalities that didn't click with me. If he's charming, that'll be a big plus.

I've got a cribber already, but it shaped up when I got him a jolly ball and moved him to my house (we'd been boarding for a few months), where he could get out more. I'm thinking this guy may just be a boredom cribber; a few of the pictures have shown him being in a stall that seemed a little too small.

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He is a pretty nice looking boy and I can't really see anything glaringly obvious about his confo in those pictures. I'm glad you have experience with cribbers and I hope you can help him out with that. If he is as broke as they say and he is sound, he would probably be worth $600 to me. Good luck and I hope he is the perfect horse for you .

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Unless there's something serious wrong with him health-wise or something, I'd personally jump at the chance to buy him. Around here, $600 is dirt cheap, especially for a draft cross (which I've always wanted) that's as laid back as they say. Definitely get a vet to check him out if you can, but if I were in your position, I'd go for it (probably not a good idea, but I'm super jealous you found him!).

As for the cribbing, both mares I've owned were cribbers, so it's pretty much a fact of life for me :p Other than tearing up the barn a little bit, Tara isn't affected by it, and I keep a collar on her to control it (doesn't work too well, but it's better than leaving it off).
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He is a pretty nice looking boy and I can't really see anything glaringly obvious about his confo in those pictures. I'm glad you have experience with cribbers and I hope you can help him out with that. If he is as broke as they say and he is sound, he would probably be worth $600 to me. Good luck and I hope he is the perfect horse for you .
I actually just heard back from them, and they said they'd go lower; $400 cash, the rest in trade.

I may go look at him Sunday, and if he seems good, I'll probably give them a deposit.

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Unless there's something serious wrong with him health-wise or something, I'd personally jump at the chance to buy him. Around here, $600 is dirt cheap, especially for a draft cross (which I've always wanted) that's as laid back as they say. Definitely get a vet to check him out if you can, but if I were in your position, I'd go for it (probably not a good idea, but I'm super jealous you found him!).

As for the cribbing, both mares I've owned were cribbers, so it's pretty much a fact of life for me :p Other than tearing up the barn a little bit, Tara isn't affected by it, and I keep a collar on her to control it (doesn't work too well, but it's better than leaving it off).
Yeah, it didn't seem that high to me, either. I looked at a Belgian mare that was... 18, I think? But still going strong who was $1000. That's my only experience with draft prices here, aside from going to sale barns.

I haven't paid "full price" for a horse up here, though. The most I've paid is $150.

I get lucky with deals, I guess. I'm also painfully cheap. :>
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Wow, only $400? Hm...I would be wary of a price tag so low. I'd definitely get a vet check. But then again, I didn't get Tara checked out and she ended up being fine. She was a rescue, though, so I didn't care if she was rideable or anything. I lucked out, though. So...I'd say something is either wrong with him, or they don't have experience or haven't done the research to know how much they could get for him. Or they could just want to find him a good home...you never know!

Gosh he's so cute, especially in that first picture!
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Wow, only $400? Hm...I would be wary of a price tag so low. I'd definitely get a vet check. But then again, I didn't get Tara checked out and she ended up being fine. She was a rescue, though, so I didn't care if she was rideable or anything. I lucked out, though. So...I'd say something is either wrong with him, or they don't have experience or haven't done the research to know how much they could get for him. Or they could just want to find him a good home...you never know!

Gosh he's so cute, especially in that first picture!
Horses in general don't go for a whole lot here. I actually found him on Craigs List (which is probably not that bright, but I've done okay there before), and your average horse is between $200-$800 on there.

They seem to not be that knowledgable about horses, though, and most interested in finding him a good home. I also think his leg is part of the problem.

If I were to get him, though, my friend (who knows a LOT more about horses than I; I actually plan on talking to him tommorow) would have to pick him up, and he'd be able to give him a once-over.
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I know that for my area, even the $400 price tag would be a little iffy so to me, it sounds reasonable. The last few auctions I have gone to had very broke horses going for less than $200.

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I know that for my area, even the $400 price tag would be a little iffy so to me, it sounds reasonable. The last few auctions I have gone to had very broke horses going for less than $200.
Yeah. I paid $150 for my one (broke) mare at an auction, but you usually have to be pretty careful with the auctions here; few drafts, and the ones you get are usually broodmares or nutjobs.

I'm more looking for a "sure-thing", "I know it won't freak if I get on it" horse this time. I like my auction horses, though.

I was thinking about going to next Thursday's, just to check.
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