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    08-09-2012, 05:05 PM
  #41
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Rescue horse

Sorry I don't want to knock the person who started this thread but these are my thinkings on the subject
I have a gypsy cob - no papers but brought here to the US with me from the UK where they have long been a type and not a breed - though there is now a registry starting up over there
I would first say that though she is for us a perfect trail horse, go where you point her and would give anything a reasonable go she is in no way a 'novices ride' They are not all quiet plods and with their bulk if they want to be awkward then they have the power to do it on the ground and under saddle
Only one of my 4 horses has a registered parent - I can't see why, unless you want to breed or compete in a breed class that it matters
This mare already has issues so the best place for her is with an experienced owner who knows what they're doing
Breeding a foal to bond with a young child is silly - even a foal can cause serious injury and 9 times out of 10 a novice breeder treats the foal as a plaything with no boundaries and they end up as dangerous monsters
A pre-disposition to founder means that she will always need careful management - 24/7 grazing is not an option unless there is a way of restricting it
Any rise in blood pressure during pregnancy or in birth is going to bring on another founder attack
Why breed another horse anyway when the slaughter yards are full of nice unwanted horses
Running a Rescue Centre with all the behavioural and health issues that these horses usually come with is not something for an inexperience person who 'thinks they are doing a good thing'
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    08-09-2012, 05:12 PM
  #42
Weanling
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Originally Posted by DimSum    
...and here I go taking the time to write out a reasoned reply when I could have just posted

me too !! Love the cat
     
    08-09-2012, 06:59 PM
  #43
Weanling
Oh my gosh Gypsy has such a loving, caring face..please make sure she goes to a safe home!! She surely deserves it!!
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    08-09-2012, 07:29 PM
  #44
Foal
As the owner of this rescue...i will tell you that I am completely dumbfounded!

I lost my temper and composure! What my family has sacraficed, as well as 200 supporters, to have been mis-lead down this path is unthinkable. Yes, it takes a village to run a rescue...and cross us and you will be confronted with a very ANGRY mob! Try to take one of our precious rescues and lie about your intentions and you will be stopped.

Thank you..Anna Noel, all Meaholics and horse lovers here. Thank you Horse Forum!

For any of you that would like to know about our rescue and the supporters behind every horse we have...feel fre to visit us:
http://www.facebook.com/groups/35445...=group_comment

This is our group page.......
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    08-09-2012, 07:37 PM
  #45
Foal
Thank you!

I have to say this has been a very upsetting experience. I have been accused of lying which is not true. But accusations are easy to lobby and difficult to fight as questions and statements are not interpreted correctly.

I just came from the rescue place where the person that runs it lobbied more Fwords at me in front of kids and threatened to call the police if I did not leave. I was there to clarify and inform her of the contradictory information I had gathered about the horse, and that I was advised to ask the questions I asked. Apparently, I was only supposed to ask her as she has all the papers. Why would I not ask around? I think it would be stupid to not ask around as adopting or buying a horse is a big decision and you should check out the situation beyond the person representing a horse (same as any other major purchase or long-term purchase). I guess that is not how it works. I also know it is impossible to have a rational conversation with an irrational individual that will not let you speak, or listen to an answer to their own question. Pointless.

Prior to her arrival on the scene I had a chance to speak with the employees who did not think my questions or thoughts were out of line, but that the terms "breeding" and "value" are emotional triggers. Apparently so. I was also told that the foal was in fact hers (there were some questions among the populace), and that she had breeder number/papers, so apparently she did mean something to someone in the past as I had thought was possible. It is too bad she ended up in the situation that brought her to a rescue facility. As for the sales price of the foal, that too was tossed out at me and I thought it would be helpful to include in the post. I did not know it was going to light a forest fire.

I was told via several additional back-to-back Fwords and screaming that you don't ask about value or breeding when it comes to a 250 dollar rescue horse, and that there is no value. With that I find it a bit conflicting when one of the rescue horses there, a big thoroughbred, who I was told the day before yesterday by the operator that it was also rescued but was not a 250 dollar horse as they looking to get 5K because he is worth something! Same with another mare's foal there...not a 250-dollar rescue horse. Interesting. That does not jive with a rescue operation telling me I should not be concerned about value of a rescue horse.

Whatever. I do appreciate the input I have received here, but I do not appreciate the proverbial trip through hell that some folks have put me through. It is unwarranted and unwelcoming.

Personally, I will encourage people interested in a horse of interest to do all the research they can and ask all the questions they can, because a decision to adopt a horse, 250-dollars, free, or 5K is not a one time purchase...it is on-going with care, feeding, shelter and not to mention love.

Lastly, I would like to know why, with all the meaholics (I guess that is term) out there, over 200 as I understand from the rescue and inclusive of other countries, why there are any horses at this rescue? Why have they not been adopted? Why are they still there waiting for good homes? Sitting behind a keyboard and participating in forums and Facebook does not save a horse. Action does. I was trying to take some action.
     
    08-09-2012, 07:50 PM
  #46
Foal
Because some of us can't have horses and the only way to help is through the internet. Most of us live thousands of miles away how can we rescue a horse when we live in a city. The owner is loving and kind if you don't push her buttons. But you have pushed her buttons, she has enough on her plate already.
Its not right what you did going behind her back and asking questions about age when only her and vets would know. I am so mad right now. If you want to save horses rescue a pregnant mom, a foal but do not breed rescues that is just wrong.
     
    08-09-2012, 07:51 PM
  #47
Foal
No response needed here...just keep digging a hole. There is a horse priced here at a higher adoption fee. As a matter of fact, to avoid this problem in the furture...ALL ADOPTION FEES will be going up...to avoid folks like you.

Of 19 horses rescued from animal control...9 have been adopted. We do not just adopt them to the first person to "fall in love" so we have time to ascess the entire situation. As I told you...the process takes time...for this very reason.

If you want a horse "of value", registered, and breedable...go buy one! Do not look for a rescue. Do some research on the state of the horse economy... and good luck in your endeavors. And do not step foot near this property again.

Thanks!
Ann
     
    08-09-2012, 07:53 PM
  #48
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Rescue horses

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Originally Posted by ShannonLoftus    
Thank you!

I have to say this has been a very upsetting experience. I have been accused of lying which is not true. But accusations are easy to lobby and difficult to fight as questions and statements are not interpreted correctly.

Lastly, I would like to know why, with all the meaholics (I guess that is term) out there, over 200 as I understand from the rescue and inclusive of other countries, why there are any horses at this rescue? Why have they not been adopted? Why are they still there waiting for good homes? Sitting behind a keyboard and participating in forums and Facebook does not save a horse. Action does. I was trying to take some action.
Though I would like to say that its a shame this has happened to you I still fail to understand why you as a novice horseowner feels that it was appropriate to rescue a horse that has complex health and handling issues and then even consider breeding from her especially at the age she's at. THis mare needs careful understanding and nursing back to health - not another foal to drag her down. If she was likely to be just a loved pasture pet then what did it matter what her breeding was or where she came from or what she was worth - hardly any wonder that you made people suspicious
One of my mares now 21 came to me as a 3 year old with all the social skills of a 15.2 out of control labrador. Her so loving owner/breeder had bought a mare from an auction by outbidding a meat man, they hardly handled her, never got her broke so had her put in foal to a TB becuase they thought it would be cute to have a foal about, they knew nothing about foaling so the poor mare was left in the field to 'get on with it' (thats natural as they thought) As a result she had a really tough time and then rejected the foal which they then decided to hand rear. They treated it like a puppy, even encouraging it to put its front legs on their shoulders. By the time it was 3 years old they had a monster that they left in the field because they were afraid of it and let it get so fat it was a health risk. When they tried to catch it the poor thing had no idea how to respect people so she knocked one of them over. Result - they called the vet (also my vet) to have her shot.
That's when I came along and bought her, thanks to the vet who knew me and asked if I would give her a chance
The worst thing is that when we took her away they had just got a new foal from the same mare and were repeating the process all over again
If you really want a horse that bad then go and find one that doesn't have all the problems but leave the foals to people who know what they're doing
     
    08-09-2012, 08:04 PM
  #49
Foal
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Originally Posted by franzernator    
Because some of us can't have horses and the only way to help is through the internet. Most of us live thousands of miles away how can we rescue a horse when we live in a city. The owner is loving and kind if you don't push her buttons. But you have pushed her buttons, she has enough on her plate already.
Its not right what you did going behind her back and asking questions about age when only her and vets would know. I am so mad right now. If you want to save horses rescue a pregnant mom, a foal but do not breed rescues that is just wrong.

Thank you I was about to write the same thing we also help Ann with donations and what ever we can do to help her out. I have never met Ann only chat with her in the group to me she is very loving and caring person. You have done her wrong
     
    08-09-2012, 08:22 PM
  #50
Super Moderator
OK, this thread has taught us all a valuable lesson.

First, people who work like dogs to rescue neglected and abused horses are extremely sensitive to their well being. As such, they often offer them for adoption with long strings attached. If you decide to adopt one of their horses, you must accept these conditions/limitations....PERIOD. These rescuers are often very passionate about what they do and don't suffer subterfuge lightly.

The second lesson is that the internet has made this world a VERY small place. Don't post anything that you don't want known to all involved. It often WILL find its way to everyone...even those you think will never see it.

I am now closing this thread, because it has served its purpose.
     

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