Sammy came back home

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Sammy came back home

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    06-18-2012, 04:28 PM
Sammy came back home

Long story short I rescued a Belgian two years ago and sold him 8 months later after putting miles of training on him and weight as well as fixing his feet and building much needed trust.
I got a call at the beginning of june from the lady saying she didn't want him anymore and had him up for sale. I said to take the add down and I'd come get him. So I have my big giant back. I'm happy to keep him at home with my girls and my stud. Lestat and him will be pasture buddies after he's done with his week of settling in.
When I sent him off with her last January I had him loading with a lead rope over his neck telling him to get in and shutting the divider. He stood patiently and waited to be backed out. I had him loading in my custom draft 3 horse slant, 7'6 tall 7'2 wide. Comfortable for a horse his size (19.2).
When I picked him up she had been hauling him in a 6'8 2 horse slant 7 foot wide. Poor guy was shaking when I went to load him into my trailer. I had to load and unload 6 times before I convinced him the hay was better than coming back out and finally got him locked in. Unloading he almost flew out of the trailer and was drenched in sweat so I'm sure he's somewhat claustrophobic of small spaces now. I had to remind him of his space and manners and after getting him to drop his head he took off running in his pasture before finding 3 suitable roll spots and then finally settled down.
The lady I sold him two has had some nasty life issues come up so I was happy to take him back. She couldn't handle or work with him much at all anymore and I would much rather he be back home with me.

This time around I'm not shelling out 1100 dollars a month to feed the big guy and pay board, this time all my horses are at my house and that money can go to feeding all of them. Come to find out the money I putting forward for him and buying the extra feed was going to everybody else in the barn when I wasn't around to watch it being fed to him and only him. Wonderful. So at least now I can make sure I'm feeding him at my house and he'll be under my watch. Over all I'm happy.

Anyway I wanted to introduce sammy back! I don't have any updated pictures just yet but I will get some. She kept his weight up and I'm expecting some weight loss just because of the stressful move for him. After my stalls are build (another week or so) I'm looking at putting him on some supplements and I was wondering what is a good draft grain supplement or oil to help put some more weight on him? He's not a fan of the beat pulp I feed and turned his bucket upside down before stomping it into the ground. I'm hoping maybe that will change when he's fed in a stall but if not I still plan on giving him some kind of weight builder supplement ontop of his hay.
Right now he's getting 6 flakes daily but since he's on 24/7 turn out I'm thinking of maybe tossing a bale out there and letting him sort through it himself sort of like free choice? I'm a little iffy on that since the weather can't seem to make up it's mind on raining or being dry and I wouldn't want him ingesting moldy hay.

Any suggestions on draft appropriate weight building grain or even how to use oil? I'm getting his teeth done very soon, she hasn't done them since I sold him and that was about 1.6 years ago. I had them done before I sold him. Poor guy.
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    06-18-2012, 07:30 PM
I put Canola Oil in my two geldings grain. I also feed TIPP, which is a complete supplement my grandfather fed and I've been feeding as well. You have to order it over the phone though. Maybe start with smaller amounts of beet pulp and build him up? I had to do this with my new gelding.
    06-18-2012, 09:45 PM
I'll see if he can get in on the canola oil. I was looking into Purina Strategy or maybe another high fat low carb low sugar grain I could easily order in bulk from my local feed store. I'm going in today or tomorrow to see what they offer. I haven't heard of the grain you feed? What is it's price range?
    06-18-2012, 10:34 PM
We used corn oil to help get weight back on Trixie, just a top dressing as if I put too much she wouldn't eat it. Also, sweet feeds of any kind are more empty calories than anything, we took ours off of it and put them on crimped rolled oats, cracked corn and their supplements, keeps them sleek, good looking, and they love it.

I know that there are some stallions who will accept another male in with them, but many others view a male, regardless of if it is gelded, as a challenger. So be careful with that.
    06-18-2012, 10:40 PM
Lestat is only a year old and has been calling to sammy since the day he came in. They've been over the fence buddies. He doesn't have a clue he's a boy yet but I do not like stallions being alone. Every stallion I've worked with that had turn out alone was a nasty mess to work with even with years of training. So although I accept it could be the horses mind involved in that I'm doing what I can to avoid that happening with my boy. He loves other horses, he'd play with the gelding next door if I let him.

Sweet feed is terrible for draft horses so I'm avoiding anything like that. No senior or anything like that. I'm researching high fat low carb and very low sugar grains for him but I am going to try the canola oil and see what he thinks about that.
    06-18-2012, 10:49 PM
It is good he is so laid back for a young stallion. I hope that he will continue to be that way when you do have more time and training and have used him for breeding purposes. I have always worked with QH stallions and as long as they had a job, they knew what they were doing and loved with firmness, they were fine. But, it depends a lot on the stallion, their mind, work, and what they do on a daily basis as well as handling.
    06-18-2012, 11:47 PM
His whole line has a very laid back personality so I've been witnessing that. He won't ever be hand bred he will be AI only which I've seen makes a huge difference in some of the stallions I've worked with. He's always in training with a close friend of mine who has worked with colts from birth to death for 35 years and he's been doing great ground manners, loading showing and what not. Tomorrow I'll put them in together and watch them for a bit to see how they get along. Sammy has the mental state of a 2 year old so they're almost on the same level. Lestat is still very accepting of other horses so I want to take the chance now instead of later.
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    06-19-2012, 12:09 AM
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I wanna see new pics of him. I remember that big lug from when I first started on the HF.
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    06-19-2012, 12:21 AM
I will get some pics ASAP! Probably tomorrow.
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    06-19-2012, 01:06 PM
You might want to try Step 8, its a high fat feed that I've been using with my OTTB to get some pounds on him. I have also been using Cool Calories with success but its pricey (at least in Canada) you can get it from smart pak for a decent price, its too bad they don't ship to Canada :(

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