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        09-18-2013, 12:06 PM
      #31
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by BlueSpark    
    to clarify, I wasn't talking about starting older horses under saddle, but working with untouched older horses(not halter broke) I have worked with one untouched 3 year old percheron stallion, one 5 year old Clydesdale stallion, one 3 year old mustang mare, a 3 year old paint, appy and qh, plus a few others. It is WAY easier to get a horse leading well and trusting its handler on the ground if its handled while young. Not that it can't be done, just that its a huge pain. I could halter break at least 5 horses under a year in the time it takes you to halter break the older horse.
    I am pretty sure that these horses are at least halter trained since they were rescued. I'm more concerned about getting them in a trailer if need be. At least this barn is a 30 min walk from my house, so there is possibilities if we do get one
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        09-18-2013, 12:14 PM
      #32
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by TexasBlaze    
    Why do you need a draft cross? Why don't you look at something like a thoroughbred? Instead of spending money on a draft your not sure how they will mature get a trainer or someone knowledgable to help you find a good tb with good jumping confo and use the money you would've used to buy the draft to get some training on the tb professionally. Tbs are more likely (in my opinion) to make it to the bigger shows than a draft or draft cross will
    I've looked through countless OTTB's, and most have previous injuries that limit their potential. I am waiting to see the results of a bone chip surgery on one, and if he is able to do everything, I will jump on him. I have looked at non OTTB's, but none of them are quality. I'm just looking at my options. I don't have the $10,000+ to get a quality TB, and I won't use a trainer. I want all of the work to be done by me. In the end, I want to be able to say "I accomplished this" not "blahblahblah trained him for me".

    You should look up Aquarius on youtube. He is a clydextb cross and is an amazing jumper. I'm willing to get any breed that will be competitive in the lower levels for sure. If I get an upper level prospect, I will do that. I always keep in mind that my ArabianxRocky Mountain is not the typical jumper/eventer, yet he has made it so far, where he has brought me over a 4ft jump, all with my training.

    No offense to your opinions or anything, but I am against sending my horses off to a trainer. I prefer guidance by a trainer, or lessons, not them just purely doing it all.
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        09-18-2013, 12:31 PM
      #33
    Weanling
    Good draft crosses are expensive as well.
         
        09-18-2013, 01:49 PM
      #34
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by BaileyJo    
    Good draft crosses are expensive as well.
    Now I will go for anything that has the conformation and soundness I am looking for
         
        09-18-2013, 02:07 PM
      #35
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by BaileyJo    
    Good draft crosses are expensive as well.
    Eh, not necessarily. Of course, I got lucky, but I got 2 good ones and they were both free.

    Of course, OP, just look for any horse that might fit your desires, regardless of breed. If you happen to stumble across a suitable draft cross, then snatch it up, but don't restrict yourself.

    I've got 2 draft x stock horses and one would likely be an awesome eventer because he's lighter and leggier but still has a lot of action and really big movement. He's a little higher strung as well.


    The other is bigger and bulkier and slower. I haven't yet found anything that he would even attempt to jump over. If it's large enough for any other horse to jump, he still just takes one big step and blunders over the top of it. I have no doubt that he'd likely just crash through all the fences on a SJ course LOL.
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        09-18-2013, 02:39 PM
      #36
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by smrobs    
    Eh, not necessarily. Of course, I got lucky, but I got 2 good ones and they were both free.

    Of course, OP, just look for any horse that might fit your desires, regardless of breed. If you happen to stumble across a suitable draft cross, then snatch it up, but don't restrict yourself.

    I've got 2 draft x stock horses and one would likely be an awesome eventer because he's lighter and leggier but still has a lot of action and really big movement. He's a little higher strung as well.


    The other is bigger and bulkier and slower. I haven't yet found anything that he would even attempt to jump over. If it's large enough for any other horse to jump, he still just takes one big step and blunders over the top of it. I have no doubt that he'd likely just crash through all the fences on a SJ course LOL.
    They are absolutely gorgeous! I'm done being picky on breeds. I personally believe skill depends on each horse and can't be determined by breed.
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        09-18-2013, 07:40 PM
      #37
    Showing
    To be fair there are always exceptions to every rule. It's true that type of cross I would probably not look at if eventing is what you want to do. However you never what this guy can do. What level of eventing are you wanting to do. Most people on this forum do low level in most disciplines, which I have no doubt this horse could do with proper training-as most breeds could.

    What you need to look at is conformation, temper and then breed. I've seen some pretty scary looking animals competing and winning at the 1.30m that were draft crosses with horrible conformation and were very heavy boned.

    This guy is quite young as well, so you need to be realistic with your timeline as well. It's going to take a lot of waiting before this guy has matured enough to be even jumped at all, let alone start doing eventing.
         
        09-19-2013, 12:44 PM
      #38
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by smrobs    
    Eh, not necessarily. Of course, I got lucky, but I got 2 good ones and they were both free.

    Of course, OP, just look for any horse that might fit your desires, regardless of breed. If you happen to stumble across a suitable draft cross, then snatch it up, but don't restrict yourself.

    I've got 2 draft x stock horses and one would likely be an awesome eventer because he's lighter and leggier but still has a lot of action and really big movement. He's a little higher strung as well.


    The other is bigger and bulkier and slower. I haven't yet found anything that he would even attempt to jump over. If it's large enough for any other horse to jump, he still just takes one big step and blunders over the top of it. I have no doubt that he'd likely just crash through all the fences on a SJ course LOL.
    Yes, but you said yourself you got lucky. I got lucky too. I got a good one cheap. Most people don't.
         
        09-19-2013, 10:59 PM
      #39
    Weanling
    I also spend too much time checking out dream horse, warmbloods for sale, etc.... My husband calls it "Pony Porn". ... and to show you how bad it is, I recognize that yearling. He was bred by a place called "Dances with Horses" and I think his name is Dances with Cimeron, or something similar. You can check out pics of his sire, and possibly his dam on their website.
         
        09-20-2013, 08:59 AM
      #40
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Captain Evil    
    I also spend too much time checking out dream horse, warmbloods for sale, etc.... My husband calls it "Pony Porn". ... and to show you how bad it is, I recognize that yearling. He was bred by a place called "Dances with Horses" and I think his name is Dances with Cimeron, or something similar. You can check out pics of his sire, and possibly his dam on their website.
    We both have the same addiction he is actually sold, they didn't update the ad..

    And I have a 99% chance of getting a horse this week.. A horse the exact opposite of what I wanted.. A 14hh arabian.. Rescuing her from slaughter and an abusive owner. Hopefully training her and selling to a lesson barn though
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