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    03-05-2014, 11:54 AM
  #11
Green Broke
My cousins drive and trail ride their full percherons. I find them big, clunky, slower than a saddle horse and way less agile. But for just riding around the farm, or for someone who wanted a large, slow and steady mount, they would work. They are amazing to pull with, that's where they really excel.

On the other hand, draft crosses can be amazing saddle horses. A good draft cross will have some added thickness, big bones and an even temperament from the draft side, with more agility, lightness and endurance from the cross. My bo has a Belgian x appaloosa, and he is a fantastic ride.
     
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    03-05-2014, 12:03 PM
  #12
Weanling
I have seen quite a few draft breeds excel in Dressage. Mostly Frisians, Percherons, and Welsh Cobs. I think the smaller draft breeds might bet better at certain western disciplines. But I admittedly don't know too much about western disciplines. I used to consider myself a western rider- but turns out- anyone can plop themselves in a western saddle on a dead broke horse and go for a trail ride!
     
    03-05-2014, 12:28 PM
  #13
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Littlebuddy, you live, it seems, VERY close to me since I'm in the Houston/Katy area as well. If you'd like, I can keep a look out for you. I have a few connections that may know of a nice draft cross for you if you tell me exactly what you're looking for. How far are you willing to travel out to see a horse?
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    03-05-2014, 12:55 PM
  #14
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
Drafts, in general, aren't going to be great at any riding discipline. Even on trails, they don't have the endurance of a standard sized horse. If you find the right one, they can do just about anything at low levels, but if you want to win or be even remotely competitive beyond that, a draft generally isn't the way to go. Even at low levels, I generally wouldn't expect to place on a full draft simply because of judge bias.

Are you dead set on a full draft or would you be content with a cross? I've got 2 crosses and I use one of them for ranch work (the other isn't started under saddle yet). He's not very athletic and he tires faster than the other horses, but he tries his heart out and he's very intelligent/easygoing.




I think a horse like this would be perfect for the OP. I was a little hesitant when I said draft cross because a lot of them are plain fugly or have the draft body without the brain or are big and hot and bred more for a competitor. The right one (like this) would be perfect!!

In response to another post, I don't really consider Welsh Cobs drafts.. or Friesans though they are technically light drafts, I think of that as a separate group. I think the OP is talking about the traditional draft look (she said Clydesdale I believe) which I'm sure are great for what they're bred for (and Clydesdales seem more athletic and you could attempt to do stuff on them) but not really riding horses.
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    03-05-2014, 12:57 PM
  #15
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Originally Posted by littlebuddy123    
Yah I understand how they aren't built for speed, being a big and heavy and all. And if I were to compete it would probably be local events and such, but I understand how a full Draft could only take me so far, especially if I did decide to compete in bigger competitions. And yes, I'm completely alright with Draft crosses I actually found a 15 year old Draft gelding cross with a Quarter horse I'm wondering how that'll look! (Haven't seen pictures yet) he's only 15 hands, not as tall as I was dreaming of haha but recommended for beginners since he was previously working as a lesson horse and has been on trail rides. But I still have a lot of time to look for the perfect one, if I do decide to go with a draft/draft cross. Would love suggestions for a breeder or anybody you know selling any in the Houston/Katy Texas area!
A lot of those horses are so bulky size is irrelevant even if it's on the shorter end my guess is you'll end up liking it. How tall are you if you don't mind me asking?
I think the right cross would be perfect, post some pictures here for a critique because like I said a lot of them just don't work haha. For what you want it doesn't need to be fancy, just a good solid working horse. Get one like smorbs' that would be perfect for you :)
     
    03-05-2014, 02:25 PM
  #16
Showing
I have a Percheron/paint cross gelding who is pushing 17hh as a coming 5yo. He hasn't bulked out (yet). He can move like a WP horse (minus the peanut rolling) if I ask him to. I am hoping to show him in local shows this year. I'm not particularly hoping to win, just to have fun. If we get a ribbon out of it, awesome. If not, no big deal.

My best friend wants to try to turn him into a barrel horse. When she said that, I asked her if there was a 6D division, but he ain't very fast.

So, I guess my point is that yes, you can do just about anything you want with a GOOD draft cross (like smrobs' or mine). You may not win, but you're sure to have fun.
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    03-05-2014, 04:28 PM
  #17
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Originally Posted by JavaLover    
I probably wouldn't try speed events with drafts as they're heavier and generally not built to move fast.. but I'm sure they would do some sort of WP! Maybe not higher up, but I don't really know. Here's a video of a Percheron WP class! I think it's absolutely beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFWqAnzgAOM

As for dressage, I'm not sure that it means "draft" as I haven't seen a whole lot of dressage drafts, but I may be wrong.
That video was the MOST fun I have had today!!! That is what WP is supposed to look like....people having FUN!!

Nancy
     
    03-05-2014, 07:05 PM
  #18
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I just watched the video too. LOL, think that grey missed his calling. He was supposed to be a race horse!!!
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    03-06-2014, 12:39 AM
  #19
Foal
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
Draft crosses can either turn out really nice....or really bad. I've seen some pretty horrible looking ones. Thankfully, I lucked out with both of mine.

Belgian x Quarter Horse (forgive his fatness, he doesn't get much work in the winter)


And Percheron x Paint
They are beautiful! I think a horse like that would work perfect for me. I love their heads! I'm not sure why I just do

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Originally Posted by Endiku    
Littlebuddy, you live, it seems, VERY close to me since I'm in the Houston/Katy area as well. If you'd like, I can keep a look out for you. I have a few connections that may know of a nice draft cross for you if you tell me exactly what you're looking for. How far are you willing to travel out to see a horse?
That'd be perfect! At the moment, I could easily say what I'm looking for, but I'm going to run it by my parents officially just to get an approval from them, and then I'll go ahead and reply better. But, by what I'm looking for, do you mean general height or specific things? If so, I've always loved tall horses, anything about 15 hands would be good for me, but 16hands and above I would prefer. Feathering? Not a absolute but it looks gorgeous, not sure if draft-crosses get the feathering but it would be nice. I don't mind a half-trained horse, or a horse who needs a refreshment, I wouldn't do it myself, and would prefer an already trained one, but I wouldn't mind since I know some people who could train him/her for me. I'm starting to prefer a Gelding, before It didn't really matter, but my mom told me about instances with her Appy mare when she was in heat and a stallion happened to pass by on a trail, and with a draft cross, I'd imagine it'd be even harder! So I'd prefer a gelding. As for the time to travel... Anywhere around 2 hours would be fine, possibly 4 but that may be pushing it a bit.

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Originally Posted by Yogiwick    
A lot of those horses are so bulky size is irrelevant even if it's on the shorter end my guess is you'll end up liking it. How tall are you if you don't mind me asking?
I think the right cross would be perfect, post some pictures here for a critique because like I said a lot of them just don't work haha. For what you want it doesn't need to be fancy, just a good solid working horse. Get one like smorbs' that would be perfect for you :)
Yes I definitely will post pictures! And, uh, oh gosh. I know last year I was 5'2, but now I think I'm probably around 5'8-5'11?

@DraftyAiresMum
I've tried looking for a Percheron, or a cross, can't find any in my area! But yeah, I agree. Hopefully I can find the right one that could at least have some fun in the competition ring

Oh, and not sure if I mentioned this or not, but I am on a budget. For buying a horse at least. Knowing my dad though, he'd probably buy just about anything no matter the price, and wouldn't add up all the care and bills afterward -he's not a horse person- actually afraid of them! (I didn't tell you guys that though ) My moms definitely the horse side of the family. We can support a horse, but the less we buy one for, (the right one of course) The more we'll have to spend on its care and spoiling it a bit
My parents are going through an divorce, and that effects the budget some as well, but my dad will most likely be the one to help buy the horse, but I and my mom, will probably be the ones to support it. So I'd say $5,000 may be the absolute up-most, But I'm not completely sure on that.
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    03-06-2014, 12:51 AM
  #20
Yearling
My dream horse was a darft horse... until I had to put shoes on a massive Clydesdale at farrier school.... I could fit the shoe around my waist! I was so tired and I only had to do one hoof. That is when I decided no drafts for me lol.

They are wonderful to look at though and every one I have ever met was the sweetest thing.
     

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