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post #11 of 21 Old 10-01-2008, 02:22 AM Thread Starter
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What exactly is ESPM? I've heard it used but that's all...

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post #12 of 21 Old 10-01-2008, 04:46 AM
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Espm can occur in many breeds including drafts and draft crosses. It is an inherited disease. Here is an article written by Perdue University. It is somewhat technical, but still understandable.

http://www.addl.purdue.edu/newslette...ter/pesm.shtml
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post #13 of 21 Old 10-01-2008, 09:57 AM
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Here's Dr. Beth's info on the subject. Much easier to understand.

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post #14 of 21 Old 10-01-2008, 09:58 AM
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Wanted to add, a lot of people use beet pulp (my vet isn't fond of it and our barn refuses to feed it at all). I went with the corn oil, for me it was easier.

The packer pellet is an alfalfa/hay complete feed. He does get alfalfa snacks but alfalfa isn't the main part of his diet.

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post #15 of 21 Old 10-03-2008, 08:41 AM
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I have a Fresian X Arabian, and he is fed "Nutrena Safe Choice" grain, but only a tiny bit, and 1 flake of alfalfa hay a day.

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post #16 of 21 Old 10-03-2008, 12:46 PM Thread Starter
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wow, only 1 flake a day? Nothing els?

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post #17 of 21 Old 10-08-2008, 11:55 PM
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I have found that different horses need different amounts. My daughter's draft cross is only on pasture and is a fatty! His nickname is "Fatty McFatterton" I've had percherons who've eaten me out of house and home. As long as it doesn't have ESPM it doesn't need to be on a special diet. As to the amount, I would ask what the present owner is feeding and adjust accordingly.
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post #18 of 21 Old 10-10-2008, 07:57 PM
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According to Dr. Beth's book:

Fat Advantages

7. Controls or prevents EPSM. Because of the high incidence of this metabolic problem in draft horses, feeding fat instead of soluble carbohydrates could be life saving. EPSM can result in decreased performance, a reduced life span, or catastrophic events such as sever tying up going dow or sudden death.

Later in the book she mentions, "A diet change prior to the onset of any serious problem is much preferred and is part of good draft horse management."


When I contacted Dr. Beth about the diet she it most certainly could help prevent EPSM and there was no sense in not doing it (the diet). Prevention is better than trying to cure. So I do disagree with not feeding the high fat diet unless the horse is showing symptoms.

A horse can have it for a long time before the symptoms begin to show.

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post #19 of 21 Old 10-11-2008, 12:05 AM
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You are obviously a proponent of "Dr Beth". But, she is not the only doctor out there. From everything I have heard and read, ESPM is a hereditary disease. There are tests for this disease if you are concerned about it. While I agree that a high fat diet is good for ESPM horses it is not the ONLY diet for horses. MY personal vet believes that grass and/or hay should be the main diet for most horses and the grain should be "dessert" so to speak. Meaning that grain is not always necessary.
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post #20 of 21 Old 10-11-2008, 10:54 AM
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I agree that grain isn't always necessary. In fact, I think most horses don't need it at all. And yes, I believe in her work and I have read other reports on it. I did a lot of research when I first got my draft so I could make the right choices and all the expert opinion I could find and contact led to Dr. Beth's research. For me, it's a better safe than sorry approach.

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