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    08-09-2010, 10:41 PM
  #11
Foal
I have a aussie saddle that I'm looking to sale pretty cheap, if your interested. I'm short so I had to adjust the fenders on it. It hasn't been ridden in very much, the gelding I got it for had to be put out to pasture and passed away 6-8 months after I got the saddle. Let me know if you would like photos
     
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    08-09-2010, 10:56 PM
  #12
Banned
I would love to see some pics. What size seat is it?
     
    08-10-2010, 12:16 AM
  #13
Foal
I was wondering how are you leading her? Do you have a chain under her chin? Over her nose? Also I noticed you live in pa. Where do you live (western,centeral,eastern) do you live close to amish? Iknow they have alot of draft stuff cheaper. Like bits and saddles and stuff. Way cheaper in some cases. Also if you are looking for tack sometimes it doesn't hurt to look on drafthorsestuff.com sometimes they have some stuff on there
     
    08-10-2010, 08:30 AM
  #14
Banned
Draftgirl. We just lead her with a regular leadrope. No chain. The reasoning is, 80% of the time she walks beside you like a puppy...its that 20% that gets ya! I think once she is back in the swing of work and respect...the leading will come along.

Im in south-western PA. Not a ton of amish in my area but they are close by. I'll have to see if they have anything that would help. Her owner had considered sending her to the amish to be saddle and buggy trained but changed her mind at the last minute because Rosie is so sensitive. Our Amish are amazing horsepeople. They arent the type to beat or hurt an animal. They can be harsh and they do get the job done. Rosie would have either came back perfectly trained or a big blubbering mess. I don't know that she could handle even an insistant hand.

Sorry...Got off topic there! I am going to roundpen and ride her tonight. The faster she gets some of this weight off, the more we can really work with her.
     
    08-10-2010, 08:55 PM
  #15
Foal
I had trouble with Allegro leading when I first got him. He tended to just bulldog ahead and go wherever he wanted. I had to gain his respect, which was done easily with a few swats with the lead rope (not too hard, but enough that he felt it). Now he just follows me along like a puppy dog.
     
    08-10-2010, 09:28 PM
  #16
Foal
Did you ever try her with a chain? If not would you be able to? I'm just trying to get a feel for the hrose. My haflinger mare will follow along just like anything and is sensative but if she miss behaves just one jerk of the chain and she's got the idea. But I can't really speak for that horse cause i'm not around her. I know the amish trained my haflinger mare (we bought her from someone else who got her at an auction and she was already trained) and she is very very sensative in the mouth. But keep us updated as to how things go with her! : ] hopefully she comes along nicely for you
     
    08-10-2010, 10:14 PM
  #17
Banned
Shes doing really well. What gets on my nerves about her is that she is perfectly trained. She's been sent out to the trainers every year for the past 4 years. When people say 'that horse knows better'...Rosie really does.

We got past a major hurdle tonight. She was an angel catching her in the field...came to me and stood tied for quite a while. Walked up to the round pen quietly with no problems. Did everything I asked of her in the pen. Walked her around the arena with the obstacles, had her walk over a tarp and over some little trot poles. She just needed a refresher on the 'your space/my space" thing. She backs when you turn towards her. She walks when you walk. I didn't try to trot her as she was still weezing 5 minutes after a very short round pen work. (it was 100 degrees here today) The problem came when we got to her stall. I put her in and tied her again. Brushed her again and then got the measuring tape out. She did NOT like that AT ALL. I guess I feel the same about the scale! LOL When the tape touched her sides, she swung that huge hip at me. I cracked her. No gentle touch, no "no no rosie, that's a bad girl" a good old woop right on her ginormous bum. Problem solved. She knocked the crap right off after that. That being said, here are her measurements.

Since we only have a 'horse' tape and not a draft tape...she tapes out at 1 3/4 tape. Our tape goes to 1500#. Were going to get a real measurement of her this week sometime but for now we are estimating her somewhere around 2500#. That was shocking but almost predictable. Her neck at its fattest point is 56" around. FIFTY-SIX-INCHES. For comparison, I taped an equally fat SSH who was round 38". I doubt I will find a breast collar to fit her. From the middle of her chest to where it would meet my dee rings...38". Oh and the bitting process wont be so bad afterall. Despite her mass...she only needs a 5.5" bit. I thought her bit *was* a 5.5....it is a 5".

While round penning her...I noticed something strange. First off, the girl can barely get out of her own way...she jogs when asked to trot. In the roundpen (that is big enough for her btw) she can do two canter strides. That's it. But the really strange thing is...her legs don't match her body. They are bigger than your average horse...but not by a ton. Her feet are big but not like dinner plates. I know that she is a Premarin baby and she is a cross breed...but do you think its possible for me to work her enough to get her body to match her legs? Here is a pic cut in two for reference.

rosiebottom.jpg

And then the top

rosietop.jpg

Ps these pics are from last year when she was in much better shape than she is now.
     
    08-12-2010, 03:21 AM
  #18
Weanling
Congrats with the breakthrough!! Perchies are very smart animals, it doesn't usually take too long for them to figure things out. That's great to hear about the bit, too, it sounds like things are definitely in the upward swing now.

Unfortunately I don't know about the leg/body proportions, sorry!
     
    08-12-2010, 01:26 PM
  #19
Yearling
Is Rosie full perch or is she a draft cross? My PMU is a perch. Draft cross and luckily got the long legs of something :) If she is perch/QH maybe she got the QH legs? Her legs will probably look more in proportion when she's slimmed down some. What is she being fed? No alfalfa or grain for sure! My draft stays in good weight on grass hay. She's a gorgeous girl. Greys are my favorite!
     
    08-12-2010, 04:16 PM
  #20
Banned
Right now...she is only on turn out. No hay, no grass. Her field is the 'fat kids' field and while there is enough to keep her (and my former horse who has a tendancy to be overweight) occupied...they have to work for it and look for it. She is a PMU horse so we don't really know what she is crossed with. She definantly looks Perch. But she does have a smaller head and her feet aren't *that* big. And she is only 16.3.

Thanks for the compliments. Ill tell Rosie. She loves to be complimented! LOL
     

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