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post #1 of 15 Old 09-22-2009, 02:33 PM Thread Starter
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*sticking my nose in* Comment on collection-animation?

Ok, I'm not a dressage person so I'll just open the door to the forum slightly and push this animated gif in ;)

How far off am I in my description of proper collection, and does it even make sense? I don't want to put it in the art forum as it's really nort about the art.

I'll just leave for now and come back in later to collect the answers when nobody see me here..>_>

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post #2 of 15 Old 09-22-2009, 05:03 PM Thread Starter
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all those views and not a single comment.doesn't it work properly?


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post #3 of 15 Old 09-22-2009, 05:15 PM
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Yeah, it's working.


How did you make it?

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post #4 of 15 Old 09-22-2009, 05:19 PM Thread Starter
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Just an animation program :)


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post #5 of 15 Old 09-22-2009, 08:09 PM
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Very, very interesting! Im so glad that you posted this. I love how you drew those horses by the way, so artistic :)

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post #6 of 15 Old 09-22-2009, 11:36 PM
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Yep you've got it ;) Although it's not their 'abs' as such that draws the hindlegs under, it's more from the back.
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post #7 of 15 Old 09-23-2009, 02:13 AM Thread Starter
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How can the muscles in the back put the butt under them? Muscles tightens and pull, not push..:3


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post #8 of 15 Old 09-23-2009, 06:07 AM
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It's sort of an 'all in one' action. As you ask the horse for bigger and quicker steps from behind, creating a 'driving' power, you 'block' the front end to stop that energy falling out through the shoulder, using your own abs and an outside rein. This lifts the back and wither, at the same time as the hinds swing under. Nothing is really 'pulling' the hind legs under the horse, the power that you create in the hind end encourages the hind legs to swing forward and take the weight, you can't ask the horses's 'abs' to pull his hind legs forward ;)
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post #9 of 15 Old 09-23-2009, 06:34 AM Thread Starter
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That doesn't make much sense.
Where does the power in the hind end that you create come from?
The horse uses the abs to tip the pelvic and get the hindlegs forward. It takes strength for the hind end to carry there, but it's the horses abs that get the hindquarter in position. Just like it's your abs that tip your pelvic.


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post #10 of 15 Old 09-23-2009, 09:15 AM
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I thought it was really good, and informative :). I always thought the abs contracted too and pulled the hind end under. I was told the first sign a horse is using itself is to see the ab muscles contracting (a line on their stomache, just infront of the stifle), and once those muscles are stronger they start to step under themselves and stretch out their back into the contact.
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