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Adelinde Cornelissen dismissed from the WEG

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    09-30-2010, 11:17 AM
  #1
Green Broke
Adelinde Cornelissen dismissed from the WEG

For her horse having a bloody mouth.

And you’re OUT! Fugly Horse of the Day

Glad that the stewards stepped up and dismissed her.
     
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    09-30-2010, 11:37 AM
  #2
Showing
Glad to see they're actually enforcing their own rules!
     
    09-30-2010, 01:03 PM
  #3
Trained
That is one rule that the FEI is adamant on. The horse bit his tongue, the judge noticed it at the halt rein back and she was excused. Because she did not receive a score in the Grand Prix, she did not qualify for the Special. Had it been a show where qualification for the Special was not required, she would have been allowed to continue competing.
In any show you or I were riding in, even at the lowest levels, if there is a speck of blood on the horse they are excused. My friend's young horse lost a tooth once right before a test and she was worried about being eliminated because of the blood. Luckily it stopped bleeding before the test, but even though it was a "natural" source of blood and not from abuse, she would have been eliminated.
It is a very black and white rule though, and therefore easy to enforce. Unlike the Rolkur rule which can very easily be challenged.

Anyways, afterwards there was a press conference and the team veterinarian was pushing asking that the FEI change the rule so that if the horse stopped bleeding soon after it started for a minor wound like a nipped tongue, they would be allowed to redo the test at a later point.

The other thing that you have to realize is the stress that these horses are under in such an environment like that. I don't know how many of you watched or were at the WEG when this happened, but it is a very electric atmosphere and I know my horse would not be himself either. Despite the Rolkur, the horse was probably quite stressed purely from the atmosphere.
     
    09-30-2010, 04:06 PM
  #4
Started
Very interesting, anebel
     
    09-30-2010, 07:17 PM
  #5
Foal
Never heard of the rider herself, but thank goodness they actually did their job and disqualified her. It just disgusts me that in our world of beautiful dressage there's all these people doing ugly things to it. That picture on the blog of Adelinde riding was just awful. Poor horse.
     
    10-03-2010, 02:26 PM
  #6
Weanling
It can't be proven that Parzival biting his tongue had anything to do with Adelinde's riding. It is unfortunate for her, because no rider deserves to have this sort of thing happen to them after working so hard to qualify and traveling so long to get to an event such as the World Equestrian Games. I can't imagine the disappointment.
However, I'm glad that she was excused from the ring when it did happen. I'm sure that Parzival is and was completely fine, but it is still the rules. An had she finished test and the horse's tongue continued bleeding, that would have brought her and the FEI more bad publicity than they are already getting.
I just wished the same would have been done for the events in the warm-up.
     
    10-03-2010, 07:18 PM
  #7
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by dressagexlee    
It can't be proven that Parzival biting his tongue had anything to do with Adelinde's riding. It is unfortunate for her, because no rider deserves to have this sort of thing happen to them after working so hard to qualify and traveling so long to get to an event such as the World Equestrian Games. I can't imagine the disappointment.
However, I'm glad that she was excused from the ring when it did happen. I'm sure that Parzival is and was completely fine, but it is still the rules. An had she finished test and the horse's tongue continued bleeding, that would have brought her and the FEI more bad publicity than they are already getting.
I just wished the same would have been done for the events in the warm-up.
Stewards can only excuse riders for excessive use of force or having an uncontrollable horse or others thing contrary to the welfare of the horse and/or the safety of other horses and riders. If the horse is to bite its tongue or loose a tooth or w/e in the warm up as long as it isn't bleeding in the test, after the test, or excessively you're fine. Had the horse done that in the warm up they would have examined it, determined it's the size of a ballpoint pen tip, wiped the blood off and continued under the more watchful eye of one or many stewards. Spur and whip marks however can get you a warning or if they are bloody, kicked out. As far as the Rolkur in the warmup (which is what I am assuming you're talking about) obviously the stewards did not deem it "excessive use of force" and it did not fall outside of the FEIs guidelines for acceptable use of frame and time lines. Therefore if you have an issue write to the FEI, don't complain about it on a public forum. As far as those stewards are concerned, there was nothing done outside of the FEI rules which they are hired to uphold.
But of course, the FEI is in cahoots with all the international riders in a conspiracy to actually endorse Rolkur and profit from it, amIright?
     
    10-05-2010, 01:58 AM
  #8
Trained
Thank you Anebel, bravo!!
     
    10-06-2010, 08:52 PM
  #9
Trained
I was not at the Grand Prix, but I was at the freestyle finals. I was happy to see that there was only one rider out of the 15 who appeared to be heavy handed and rode a continually overbent horse. Even then it was only slight. The rest of the horses all were moving freely with the poll at the highest point. I didn't watch any of the warm up, but as far as what was presented to the audience was textbook form.
     

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