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        02-13-2010, 12:40 PM
      #41
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    I am finding this thread very interesting. I can't say one way or the other how I feel about it because I'm no where near being that accomplished of a rider. However, having said that, I try to ride in a way that makes my horse a partner, and not having him submitting because he's afraid not to. I'm turning a former jumper into a dressage horse. And we've had to start at square one with him. I'm finding that if I try to force ANYTHING with him, he's throwing a fit (not that it happens often, or at all anymore). Just cannot force him. But rather, if I work him slowly, and with understanding, he responds beautifully, and will do just about anything I ask.

    I see both sides, and while I think anyone below a certain level of riding attempting to use hyperflexion/LDR would be disastrous and ineffective, who knows? I certainly can't say. I'll just stick with what I know, and what's working, and see how far Zeus and I can get. I'm going to worry about my own horse, my own riding, read the debates, learn, but not make any judgment that I'm not qualified enough to make.
         
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        02-13-2010, 02:22 PM
      #42
    Weanling
    It's good to think about rollkur. It's good to always be asking yourself, is this what I want my life to be? Horsemanship is (to me) a way of life. The how is the journey.
         
        02-13-2010, 02:43 PM
      #43
    Super Moderator
    I've read through this thread in it's entirety and found it quite interesting. I started out riding dressage but haven't done it in about 25 years so I will not join in the argument. I did not like the rolkur portions of the videos but for the most part it was pretty neat to watch.

    As with any discipline, there is always someone that takes something to far or uses methods that are "inhumane" or harsh. But that doesn't mean that every rider in that discipline rides and trains that way. I don't follow dressage closely, I'd love to see videos posted of a rider that is considered to be at the same level as Anky ride.
         
        02-13-2010, 02:52 PM
      #44
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
    I have spent my career training slowly and carefully, always with the desire to allow the horse to act as my partner, not servant. So many of AVG's horses show little or no joy in what they do. They seem quite mechanical. Compare with some of the horses of the classical trainers.
    I was reading Franz mairingers book'horses are made to be hroses' and he talks about how he treats horses as his best friendsand how that has always worked for him., but if you say: oh, their just horses, not friends. Then that's fine, but treat them like a partner, like you are tied together and you guys are climbing a cliff... you don't want to get in an arguement or fight... right? Then there are those people that treat them like you are the king and he is your servant, well, it will end up how all slavery usually ends up: starting wars. (i love his book, I recomend it. He has a fantastic philosephy) well, I guess this is the war
         
        02-13-2010, 02:54 PM
      #45
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by farmpony84    
    I've read through this thread in it's entirety and found it quite interesting. I started out riding dressage but haven't done it in about 25 years so I will not join in the argument. I did not like the rolkur portions of the videos but for the most part it was pretty neat to watch.

    As with any discipline, there is always someone that takes something to far or uses methods that are "inhumane" or harsh. But that doesn't mean that every rider in that discipline rides and trains that way. I don't follow dressage closely, I'd love to see videos posted of a rider that is considered to be at the same level as Anky ride.
    im nto sure if she's at qite the same level, but I love the way she rides! And I love all the articles she writes in drssage today
         
        02-13-2010, 03:14 PM
      #46
    Weanling
    I like Courtney King-Dye as well.

    Debbie McDonald; she's a wonderful lady. I had the chance to meet her at a clinic and actually talk to her. I think she's retired now from competition to teach.
    With the Lovely Brentina
    With Felix

    Kristina Harrison-Naness; I haven't seen or heard anything of her recently, though. Rociera's such a character!
    The Famous Rociero

    Rafael Soto; welcome to Spain! Classically trained, lovely horse, but he could stand to watch where he is going.
    Invasor the Marshmallow Horse

    Huburtus Schmidt; I don't really know much about him, but this is an adorable video. The has one of the silliest piaffes I've ever seen, though.
    Forest Gump

    My favourite right now, young rider Alexandra Korelova. There's more in the video description.
    Balagur, now that's a Piaffe!
    Warming-Up for the Show

    And, Steffen Peters is an example of a good natured modern rider - not caught up in all the trends. I actually found his kur amazing, so many risks are taken. Imagine if it went absolutely flawless!
    Ravel in Spook Mode, But Still Awesome


    They aren't perfect riders or perfect horses. All could improve on things, but so could anyone. One thing they have in common: no irresponsible, over, or cruel use of hyperflexion as far as we know.
         
        02-13-2010, 03:30 PM
      #47
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    ^ I LOVE the Steffen Peters freestyle, even with the spook.
    Makes me wanna go out and ride even though I already had a lesson this morning! Ha ha.
         
        02-13-2010, 03:37 PM
      #48
    Yearling
    Why would it make any sense to lock any threads that bring up hyperflexion, peanut rolling, soring etc? If you don't wish to discuss the issue then don't click on the thread. These are topics that everyone has a right to know about, regardless of how boring or over-argued they may seem to the other members. I myself am not particularly fascinated by rollkur threads anymore because I already know about them and have discussed it in the past multiple times, but this does not mean others don't have a right to bring it up or talk about it. The more people learn, the better.
         
        02-13-2010, 04:34 PM
      #49
    Super Moderator
    The subject of the thread is not normally the reason it becomes a locked or removed thread. It is the aggressive manner in which folks respond to certain posts when they allow their emmotions to over-run the topic.

    I actually like these riders better then Anky. I am curious though, many people have commented on the slow lope (not the peanut roller but the actual lope that is so you can walk faster then the horse). How is that any less natural then the "skipping" trot? Just curious.
         
        02-13-2010, 04:46 PM
      #50
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by farmpony84    
    How is that any less natural then the "skipping" trot? Just curious.
    Are you talking about the piaffe? Maybe give me an example from one of the videos (ex. "At 3:34 in this rider's video.") and I'll have a better idea of what movement you are talking about.
         

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