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        02-13-2010, 06:05 PM
      #51
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    Forrest gump :24 The correct term is passage. But to me it's just a very animated trot. It's a forced movement. Very pretty but a forced movement nonetheless.
         
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        02-13-2010, 07:50 PM
      #52
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    Originally Posted by farmpony84    
    forrest gump :24 The correct term is passage. But to me it's just a very animated trot. It's a forced movement. Very pretty but a forced movement nonetheless.


    LOL

    You have to get up on Spyder. Nothing forced at all. He does it at the slightest hint or excuse.

    Maybe the ones you have seen have been forced but I have seen and ridden some what I call natural passage. These are ones offered to the rider where it becomes obvious the horse is in tune with you and little is required to have the horse respond.
         
        02-13-2010, 08:34 PM
      #53
    Foal
    I did not read all of the posts but one stated that when you ride a hot blooded horse like these horses you need to use a little more restraint (not exact words). I watched Chris Cox visit some high level jumping horses. The one that was a major problem left the rider's arms so sore she could barely move after her ride. She was afraid not to ride like she was as he had bolted and run off on her - he was a handful to ride - so she kept him under control. He watched and showed her how to ride with contact but NOT pulling the horse so much that it hurt. The horse improved after a short while with that cowboy on him. So a big disagreement that on some horses you just have to ride that way. You just need more knowledge and a different attitude. I was impressed that this woman would ask a "cowboy" for help. I am not and never will be anywhere near as knowledgeable about horses as Anky is but I think she needs to learn a bit more.
         
        02-13-2010, 08:35 PM
      #54
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by dressagexlee    
    This is a good topic to debate over, it's educational.
    This was a good find, Allie! All of us have provided good insight on it so far. Let's hear more!
    Thank you :)
    I just posted them as it was an interesting insight into Anky's point of view, which I haven't seen on the forum before. I believe that healthy debate should be encouraged on this forum, which I hope this thread will remain to be, not come down to personal insults or anything of the kind.




    *just as an aside note: I want to clear the waters and just state that the title of this thread is just based off of the video's name, I do realize the difference between Rollkur and LDR :)
         
        02-13-2010, 08:36 PM
      #55
    Weanling
    I agree, RockAway. I think the worst thing you could do to a hot horse is hold them back and restrain them. It's like pushing a burning match closer and closer to a box of gun powder.
         
        02-13-2010, 09:50 PM
      #56
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
    I'm not sure.....5'3" 5'6" I think they are six foot standards.
    Good lord. I can't imagine jumping that high.
         
        02-13-2010, 09:55 PM
      #57
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    Originally Posted by Honeysuga    
    That is because Parelli does not publicly advocate practices that cause injury and undue strain and discomfort to the horse nearly 100% of the time.
    He doesn't advocate the same thing as Anky but the things he has people do can sure mess up the horses. The worst type of horse I have heard so many trainers say they hate to re-train, is a Parelli trained horse.
         
        02-13-2010, 10:04 PM
      #58
    Green Broke
    I am not defending Parellis system, I was just saying that Parelli system may mess up a few horses, Anky uses methods that are harsh and proven to be dangerous to the horse(rolkur), plus(and believe me I am not a PP follower by any means) 95% of the times horses that are mess up by the PP system are because of the people working with them moving too fast or not following the system close enough or something, it is rarely the system itself or PP that messes them up.

    Really there is no valid comparison between Anky and PP, she trains horses to be controlled and used questionable at best methods to produce said horses, he trains them to be partners and uses a calm patient system to produce said horses even though to some his methods seem hokey, they are mostly gentle and work with the psychology of the horse rather than against it.

    I would rather have him train a horse of mine than AVG any day.
         
        02-13-2010, 10:09 PM
      #59
    Green Broke
    I can't stand Anky, but Parelli is worse than her. Anky may be more physically damaging to a horse, but mentally can be just as bad. His methods also get people hurt, seen that in person enough times. It drives me crazy.
         
        02-13-2010, 11:10 PM
      #60
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Spyder    
    LOL

    You have to get up on Spyder. Nothing forced at all. He does it at the slightest hint or excuse.

    Maybe the ones you have seen have been forced but I have seen and ridden some what I call natural passage. These are ones offered to the rider where it becomes obvious the horse is in tune with you and little is required to have the horse respond.

    LOL. Riley naturally jogs. VERY slow. He would jog all day long if you let him. Takes all kinds of leg to move him forward into a pretty english trot. He can do it, but that's work, the jog that everyone calls forced... natural to him. Geuss that's why we breed for discipline!
         

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