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post #1 of 12 Old 10-17-2010, 05:32 PM Thread Starter
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Unhappy bad day...

Did absolutely awful today at a schooling show for intro a and b. Got 48 and 47, even though I felt like my horse did better at his first show. Seriously he cantered half of intro a last time and got 55% while this time he rode better, although unbalanced, and got a 48%. Different judge. Aghh... just felt like ranting. Going to start schooling again on Wednesday, this is not acceptable!
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post #2 of 12 Old 10-17-2010, 05:39 PM
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Don't worry to much about it! We all have our bad days ;)
It was a learning experience. You now know what you need to work on and you can go off and school for your next show. Despite the marks, you know he did better and that you are improving anyway! Good luck in the future, don't let it get down :)

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post #3 of 12 Old 10-18-2010, 07:33 AM
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Hey, things happen! We all have bad days, horses have bad days, something go wrong. Nothing to worry about. Just take it easy and move on, and keep practicing!
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post #4 of 12 Old 10-19-2010, 02:56 PM
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One thing I've found, if a horse makes a mistake by giving too much (going too fast) the judges seem quite lenient, at least at the lower levels (where I am). But if you ride safely-- that is, slowly!-- they will NOT reward you for the caution!
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post #5 of 12 Old 10-19-2010, 06:25 PM
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Seriously he cantered half of intro a last time and got 55% while this time he rode better, although unbalanced, and got a 48%. Different judge. Aghh... just felt like ranting. Going to start schooling again on Wednesday, this is not acceptable!

This is what happens when judges are way too lenient for major mistakes.

The tests you just rode were probably more indicative of where you really are and you got a false reading from the first judge that should have marked you lower and more correctly so you would know what to work on.
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post #6 of 12 Old 10-19-2010, 06:59 PM
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I can't really speak for a show scenario dressage test, but I can say that in my general experience its those "crushing" critiques/scores/grades that help me the most sometimes. Yeah, it stings a little at first, especially if you aren't used to it, but it does teach you.

One of my favorite college profs has never given me an A on an exam - papers, quizzes and homework, but never an exam. I've studied my guts out for every one, every semester for over two years and still the A is elusive... but I always leave his final feeling like I've gotten my money's worth out of the course, and like I know a heckuva lot more than I did at the beginning of the semester.

One of the things that drew me toward dressage is that the emphasis goes back to self-improvement for the horse/rider team, and the judging style reflects that.

I strongly encourage you to look past the disappointment, study your score card, and take it as another learning experience and opportunity. It isn't a matter of acceptable/unacceptable scores, it's about improving you and your mount at the right pace. Step back, find the holes and gaps that the judge noticed, fill them, and try again.

Good luck!

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post #7 of 12 Old 10-20-2010, 06:41 PM
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don't worry about it! Haha yesturday I couldnt even pick up the correct lead xD and were supposed to be doing juniors next year, lol.
We all have our bad days, but I have learned that I would rather have a bad score but a judge that says everything that went wrong, so I could work on it, rather then a just who scores easily. Then you can get higher solid scores instead of' I got lucky' scores. :) we all have our bad days!

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post #8 of 12 Old 10-21-2010, 11:36 AM
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At Intro the most important things are
1. Cadence - steady rythmn - trot and walk at same "speed" and you could sing a song without speeding up or slowing down.
2. Relaxed horse - do NOT shorten the reins too much - treat reins as if they were attached to the horses "hands" too tight and horse just wants to get away from the "bone crushing" hands - too loose and horse feels like they have a dead fish in their hands and they ignore them.
3. Horse must be forward (in front of the leg) meaning ANY time during the test if you squeeze slightly with both legs horse should take bigger steps/go faster (in tempo/rythmn). Make sure you have this BEFORE you enter the ring and you'll score better. Biggest thing I've seen bad in Intro is horse jogs along like a western pleasure horse and your scores WILL be low if you allow this to happen.

Use your legs to indicate turns - add a LITTLE more weight into right stirrup when turning right, more in left stirrup when turning left.

And be EXACT on the pattern if it says trot between C and M then as soon as the horse is past "C" ask for the trot.

What did the judge write down under collective remarks in the test? This will help tell you what you need to work on for next time.

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dont worry about it! Haha yesturday I couldnt even pick up the correct lead xD and were supposed to be doing juniors next year, lol.
We all have our bad days, but I have learned that I would rather have a bad score but a judge that says everything that went wrong, so I could work on it, rather then a just who scores easily. Then you can get higher solid scores instead of' I got lucky' scores. :) we all have our bad days!

I totally agree. There's one judge that just absolutely LOVED my horse, and she would, honest to god, give me 7's ALL THE WAY DOWN ON EVERY MOVEMENT and maybe an 8 or two, but no comments! Nothing at all! So I'd get my test back, with a great score, and have no freaking clue what to do with it. There was one test in particular that she judged for and it put me in 1st place at a show, but I know I didn't deserve that kind of score. I've watched and rewatched the video, and even my trainer was a little perplexed, but...yeah. I'd rather have an honest judge who gives me a lot of feedback, whether it be good or bad.

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post #10 of 12 Old 10-22-2010, 11:08 AM
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I totally agree. There's one judge that just absolutely LOVED my horse, and she would, honest to god, give me 7's ALL THE WAY DOWN ON EVERY MOVEMENT and maybe an 8 or two, but no comments! Nothing at all! So I'd get my test back, with a great score, and have no freaking clue what to do with it. There was one test in particular that she judged for and it put me in 1st place at a show, but I know I didn't deserve that kind of score. I've watched and rewatched the video, and even my trainer was a little perplexed, but...yeah. I'd rather have an honest judge who gives me a lot of feedback, whether it be good or bad.
She probably didn't know what she was doing. I got an 86% once at a schooling show and on the video I had one change together behind and the test was fraught with little mistakes. It was fun to have a test of mostly "9" tho lol. But I realized the judge couldn't judge the level and took it as a good experience in the ring.

As far as these scores, a 55% and a 48% are not that different. Both scores convey the message that something is wrong. A "5" is considered "sufficient" and a "6" is "satisfactory". Do we really want to be getting those scores? It means we are riding a sufficient or satisfactory test!! Go back to the drawing board, take some lessons with a trainer committed to basics and when you and your coach feel your test is "fairly good" (7) and "good" (8) then go to the shows.

Good luck!
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