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    02-17-2010, 05:26 PM
  #21
Foal
I know I don't mean runs away either, I mean I ask her to bend through her body and she does and she will continue to until I stop giving her my leg and seat the aids. So now i'm thinkin she's engaged i'm going to go ride in a few mins when I get done i'll tell you guys all about it so you can help me figure out where I am, if you would be so kind :)
     
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    02-18-2010, 01:59 PM
  #22
Yearling
Lots of good advice here, but here's my take on schooling: You don't start with perfection. You don't go up a training scale like a ladder. Keeping that in mind, the contact will probably come and go, the rhythm may be irregular at times, etc. but it will be good for longer and longer until your whole ride will be perfect!

In my lessons I was reminded (way too often) to shorten my reins. I also wanted my horse to seek the bit, but it has to be there. I made a lot of mistakes with her (I ended up pulling a few times, to see if it would work---what a mistake!) and she never really gave me good extensions. So do go carefully, as it sounds like you're doing. Also sounds like you have a good teacher.
     
    02-18-2010, 07:59 PM
  #23
Foal
Dani--You're asking intelligent questions, and you're getting some excellent answers. But. You have an instructor. You should be discussing all this with HER. I know how frustrating it can get (believe me, I've been there), but you've got to have these conversations with your own instructor. None of us know how you actually ride. Knowing something in your head isn't even half the battle--you've got to be able to apply it at the right moment. Has your instructor ever asked, "There! Did you feel that?" and you said, "Um, no"? That's part of the learning process and it's got to be between her and you. We have no way of knowing which parts of all this you're really getting and which parts you're not. Neither do you--that's what your instructor is for. Make her help you!

I don't mean to belittle anybody who's been offering advice, because it all looks good -- but it's only writing, not riding and not seeing. SEEING is the important part.
     
    02-18-2010, 08:21 PM
  #24
Trained
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Originally Posted by Rule of Reason    
Dani--You're asking intelligent questions, and you're getting some excellent answers. But. You have an instructor. You should be discussing all this with HER. I know how frustrating it can get (believe me, I've been there), but you've got to have these conversations with your own instructor. None of us know how you actually ride. Knowing something in your head isn't even half the battle--you've got to be able to apply it at the right moment. Has your instructor ever asked, "There! Did you feel that?" and you said, "Um, no"? That's part of the learning process and it's got to be between her and you. We have no way of knowing which parts of all this you're really getting and which parts you're not. Neither do you--that's what your instructor is for. Make her help you!

I don't mean to belittle anybody who's been offering advice, because it all looks good -- but it's only writing, not riding and not seeing. SEEING is the important part.
very true. All we can do is offer general advice. There will ALWAYS been loopholes, you cannot expect that if you follow everything a book says it will all work and you'll be at grand prix in 6 years like the book says. Horses evade pressure in different way, and people have various riding problems, it would make a huge novel to go into every problem you may encounter in detail, and then another book for good measure!

We are going by your word, but as you are struggling to understand concepts, I would say you don't have enough 'feeling' with your horse at this stage to follow our advice and know when to take the pressure off. If you are not experienced and tuned in enough to feel the exact moment where the horse responds to your aids, only if it is only the tiniest positive reaction, then you need a pair of experienced eyes on the ground to tell you precisely when to take the pressure off, otherwise you will be doing more harm than good and just confusing your horse.
     
    02-18-2010, 10:25 PM
  #25
Foal
K I get whet you guys are saying and I take no offense to it :) so no worries

I think i'm going to get a different instructor as well as soon as spring comes around though because what i've been reading and what everyones been telling me doesn't go through with what she tells me at alllll

I'm going to get someone who knows the ups and downs and isn't always telling me it starts with their head, because obviously it doesn't lol and i'm worried that if she is teaching me wrong from the very start how bad off am I going to be when we get through. See what i'm sayin?

And spyder I really like those threads that you've put up!!
     
    02-18-2010, 11:01 PM
  #26
Banned
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Originally Posted by Dani9192    
and spyder I really like those threads that you've put up!!
Thanks. I will try to put up a variation of dressage terms and movements so that hopefully it will be easier to find specific answers.
     
    02-19-2010, 01:07 AM
  #27
Trained
If your instructor is telling you that everything starts with the head and wants you to pull it down. Find a new instructor. I'm glad you are aware of that! Well done :)
     
    02-19-2010, 05:31 PM
  #28
Foal
Well thank you! :)
     

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