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post #61 of 70 Old 08-06-2013, 08:06 PM
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I know I received a statement that they would be taking any needles suspected to be used to administer Mg and be testing them - but I am a competition organizer...

Also ETA - there is doping and there is doping.

These ponies are getting drugged quite literally to an inch of their lives. Being shown on sedatives is a lot different than testing with FEI protocol.
Isabelle Werth had a horse test positive for ulcer meds because the horse in the stall beside hers at the barn was on them - that is how sensitive the tests are. And they test for everything, including what people consider "normal". Don't spill coffee in your hay, don't eat spicy food then touch your horse - at an FEI comp these will cause a horse to test positive. Check ingredients in your fly spray too...
I'd like to see how that happens since they were thrown away. How do they know who threw what needle away. Will they be fingerprinting riders, trainers, coaches, owners now?
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I'd like to see how that happens since they were thrown away. How do they know who threw what needle away. Will they be fingerprinting riders, trainers, coaches, owners now?
If you have used needles in your tack trunk and are suspected of doping.
That's why I say it's nifty that the high end show venues have sharps boxes....
I know it's tough to enforce but hopefully it will deter some people.
It's like soring the TWH horses. Not everyone gets caught but hopefully the rules will deter people from doing it, and catch some folks in the process.

In FEI comps we get inspected - they will even search your tack trunk and trailer if they suspect you have stuff..
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If you have used needles in your tack trunk and are suspected of doping.
That's why I say it's nifty that the high end show venues have sharps boxes....
I know it's tough to enforce but hopefully it will deter some people.
It's like soring the TWH horses. Not everyone gets caught but hopefully the rules will deter people from doing it, and catch some folks in the process.

In FEI comps we get inspected - they will even search your tack trunk and trailer if they suspect you have stuff..
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I am quite familiar with FEI rules. My family has owned FEI horses for over
20 years.

It is a USEF rule to have sharps containers at all USEF events, not just the top ones. It is up to management to empty them when full and individuals are fined if they do not dispose of needles properly. I personally can't think of anyone who does not dispose of needles properly by utilizing the sharps container. Still, even if someone did hoard needles in a trunk, the USEF has never collected needles.
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Theres a pic of me in 'my albums' getting X Country fence totally wrong at a hunter trials. He was 17.2 so I was like a pea on a drum anyway, he took off miles too soon over a drop fence and there was way too much air between me and the saddle
One of those days I always remember as I was late setting off and forgot my tweed jacket so had to wear that black jacket that had been hanging in the horsebox for goodness knows how long and had cobwebs on it
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Theres a pic of me in 'my albums' getting X Country fence totally wrong at a hunter trials. He was 17.2 so I was like a pea on a drum anyway, he took off miles too soon over a drop fence and there was way too much air between me and the saddle
One of those days I always remember as I was late setting off and forgot my tweed jacket so had to wear that black jacket that had been hanging in the horsebox for goodness knows how long and had cobwebs on it
Oh Jaydee you remind me so much of me!
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Drug regulations are really only followed at the A shows for hunters/jumpers in Illinois. Anything B rated or lower people will drug the crap out of the horses. Not sure about breed shows or other disciplines. Even at the A rated shows, people will find alternative uses for allowed drugs. Example - using Dex as a calming drug rather than for a horse with hives. It's sad. I imagine that it's a problem in other parts of the world as well.

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post #67 of 70 Old 08-09-2013, 12:54 AM
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Well, my student who breeds New Forest ponies had success at the show

Champion pony




Reserve champion pony



So, anyone wanting a nice young pony for their up and coming future Olympian.......

BTW, The red ribbon is first in Canada for you Americans!!
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Lovely ponies
What sort of height average do they breed them in the US?
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On the upper end of medium, I believe. You would have to contact Anita for more details, as I am not sure the specifics. Both of those are youngsters, but should be close to their full heights by now.

If you want, I could PM the owners info.
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It was just curiosity - not in the market for another mouth to feed right now but I would love another pony to 'play with'!!!
I think those look more like the ponies I remember from my childhood - I spent a lot of time with a cousin of my Grandfathers who used to buy a lot of New Forest youngsters to break and sell on and I'm sure they were finer built than some of the newer ones in the UK seem to be
The pony we had in the 90's was by this stallion and she looked a lot like him, she moved really well and could have easily done dressage
Some of the stallions on the NF stallion website look really chunky yet the purpose of the breed was to have a narrower pony better suited to a childs legs than some of the other M&M breeds
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