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post #1 of 32 Old 04-19-2011, 05:50 AM Thread Starter
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Building up to flying changes.

I want to try to train Tess them. She is soft, light on the bit and her HQ are well under her. She is picking up her leads perfectly, swinging through the back and is balanced and has an established counter canter. Walk to canter as well both directions. She can do a one stride simple change both directions and be balanced and accurate through it. So just wondering how I would go about training a flying change.

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post #2 of 32 Old 04-19-2011, 06:02 AM
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Well Lola seems to do them on her own. And she usually only changes at the corner went bent toward the direction she is going so maybe start there? I have seen people say put a pole in each corner and when she goes over the pole she should change leg.
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Tess will do them in barrels and flagging races ect.

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When I worked with hunters or jumpers; I would teach flying changes by cantering a figure 8 with the crossrail at the center of the 8; asking for the change in the air over the crossrail, then going to a rail on the ground, and then just empty jump standards, and finally just cueing for the change by changing the bend. I usually waited to do this exercise until the horse spontaneously offered the change - for instance, if every time you jump a line on a green horse, you do a simple change before the turn, or halt, leg yield one step to the outside and pick up the new lead, at some point when you land from a line the horse will offer the change before you ask for the simple or transition down to halt.

Many, many people attempt to teach changes too soon - the horse has to be fit, and have a good, rhythmic, clean, 3 beat canter with adequate suspension.

I never taught a soley dressage based horse to change; I know you have to be careful to maintain straightness and correct bend more strictly than on a hunter or jumper.

Just curious - I don't think flying changes appear in US based dressage tests until 3rd level? Are you working at that level in dressage, or do you just want a solid flying changed for jumping courses or gaming?
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Tess is ready. Thankyou for the suggestions, I will give them a try.

No I don't compete this level, I compete Novice. I just want her to know changes for:

1. Jumping
2. To change leads without simple changing in a test if accidently going on the wrong lead

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In that case, I think the method I outlined above is probably appropriate. It's also fairly foolproof and doesn't stress the horse.

From your photos, your horse looks fit and like it carries itself in good balance, I suspect at some point in the process she'll start offering the change.

I would be curious to hear from some of the dressage experts on their recommendations.
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Thankyou We do work hard.

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Personaly I do not like to teach changes over a pole as In my experiance I find it teaches them to change late behind.

This link explains (far better then I could) how I teach mine
Lesson 13 - Flying Changes (part 1) - Classical dressage
Lesson 14 flying changes (part 2) - Classical dressage

RIDE your horse FORWARDS and keep him STRAIGHT

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^^ Ok cool. I will have to figure out one to do. Im not going to try all of them as that would just confuse her.

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She should be able to do a very balanced 10 metre (to be honest ideally you want 5 metre but some horses just aren't built for it) circle before trying flying changes! As they're not easy for a horse to do under saddle, so you want them as fit as possible!
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