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    11-20-2009, 04:50 PM
  #1
Trained
Bute Legalized?

So I think I saw a thread on this already but I couldn't find it when I tried to search for it...

What do people think about Bute being legalized in FEI competitions?
Shocking Vote Legalizes Bute In FEI Competition | The Chronicle of the Horse

OR if you know where that thread is, that works too
     
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    11-20-2009, 04:59 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Im not sure if I agree, if your horse needs bute and is sore I don't think you should really be competeing, should you? But there could also be a situation where it is needed. But then again, when I have a compotition but im sore or something I take advil....... but im not sure, im interested in hearing the opinions on this...
     
    11-20-2009, 05:01 PM
  #3
Yearling
So that means that bute can be used on horses during competitions?
Wth !!??? Im I reading that right?
     
    11-20-2009, 05:15 PM
  #4
Trained
That's what it sounds like...
     
    11-20-2009, 05:54 PM
  #5
Yearling
I just skimmed through the article, but wth?
Legalising bute is just allowing competitors with lame horses to cover up the problems and continue competing. Its cheating imo and is not in the best interests of the horses. This is ridiculous
     
    11-20-2009, 06:17 PM
  #6
Weanling
I have no issues with bute being legal. It's like the equivalent of a human taking an aspirin. Bute will also NOT cover up a serious lameness.
     
    11-20-2009, 06:23 PM
  #7
Weanling
I knew a horse who was born with a messed up muscle in his shoulder...he was sound as could be and was willing to do anything for you...but you had to give him a small amount of bute right before an right after a ride so he wouldnt hurt to bad the next day...never hurt when riding only the fallowing day sorta thing...like if someone runs with a pulled muscle and they hurt the next day (would know I've done it) in a situation like this I can see the reasoning...

But bute being legal for any horse in a show? That's just insane they need to regulate it down somehow...
     
    11-20-2009, 06:33 PM
  #8
Yearling
IMHO, buteing a LAME horse just so you can compete in a show is selfish and your willing to risk your horse's health just for your satisfaction "to win".Thats not right
     
    11-20-2009, 06:40 PM
  #9
Yearling
I might be attacked for my opinion, but here it goes. A lot of people give their horse a little bute on multi-day shows or big clinics to make sure that they do not get painful aches, when they must go from a hard work out and stand in the horrible temporary show stalls. These are healthy horses that did not come to the show injured, the owner simply knows the effects that a box stall can have on a horse after a lot of stress and exercise. Kind of like taking an advil when you start to feel a faint cramp coming in, you can take the medication to prevent a lot of ache later. However, bute is a medication and like all other medications should be used as little as necessary. So yes, I am fine with FEI's decision, as long as it is well monitored.
     
    11-20-2009, 07:42 PM
  #10
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by roro    
I might be attacked for my opinion, but here it goes. A lot of people give their horse a little bute on multi-day shows or big clinics to make sure that they do not get painful aches, when they must go from a hard work out and stand in the horrible temporary show stalls. These are healthy horses that did not come to the show injured, the owner simply knows the effects that a box stall can have on a horse after a lot of stress and exercise. Kind of like taking an advil when you start to feel a faint cramp coming in, you can take the medication to prevent a lot of ache later. However, bute is a medication and like all other medications should be used as little as necessary. So yes, I am fine with FEI's decision, as long as it is well monitored.
Thank you.

First of all - bute will not cover up a serious lameness. Second of all, the amount that is allowed is only equivalent to 0.5 - 1 gram a day.

The purpose of bute is to prevent and treat inflammation, not "soreness" or pain. The result of reducing inflammation is that the horse will not be as sore, yes, but the main purpose is to reduce injuries. Inflammation is not only a sign of injury, but the actual act of inflaming will damage some structures not previously injured, especially in the joints. Using Bute, Asprin, Banamine, Cold Hosing and injecting a horse's joints all have the same goal when used therapeutically - to reduce inflammation and thus injury.

Speaking as someone with experience in keeping an older, arthritic horse in competitive shape, this will make the lives of many adult amateurs and juniors on old campaigners so much easier. In order to show without using bute, you have to time farrier trims so that at the time of the show you are at least 2 weeks from either end of a shoeing, you have to schedule the horse's training so that he is not unfit, but not overworked so he is sore and you also have to time your IM/IV adequan/legend so that the horse has recieved shots within 2 days prior to the show. All of this means extra farrier trips ($$), extra vet trips and injections ($$) and possibly missing work to work the horse ($$).
To be able to just take the horse to a show like any other horse and give him some bute, wonderful!

Finally. It is uneducated people that have restricted this from happening 10 years prior. Good riddance, and lets hope that EC and USDF follow suit.
     

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